Bart Ehrman

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's not important as evidence. So that's the first thing to say. And no really good scholar ever uses it as evidence. In other words, the fact that everybody says so doesn't make it so. The reason people say that, and I say it as well, is because if you have a counter opinion, then it needs to be examined. And you need to look at it.

But you need to realize that there's a reason that everybody thinks the other. And these are, you know, when it comes to biblical scholarship, for example, you know, biblical scholarship's been around for 300 years. And lots and lots and lots of things get changed, have been changed, do get changed. But if somebody says that virtually all scholars agree that the gospel,

But you need to realize that there's a reason that everybody thinks the other. And these are, you know, when it comes to biblical scholarship, for example, you know, biblical scholarship's been around for 300 years. And lots and lots and lots of things get changed, have been changed, do get changed. But if somebody says that virtually all scholars agree that the gospel,

But you need to realize that there's a reason that everybody thinks the other. And these are, you know, when it comes to biblical scholarship, for example, you know, biblical scholarship's been around for 300 years. And lots and lots and lots of things get changed, have been changed, do get changed. But if somebody says that virtually all scholars agree that the gospel,

Whoever wrote Matthew was using the Gospel of Mark. And you say, like, virtually everybody agrees with that. You say virtually because there will be some exceptions. But the reason that you say that is because these are— Most of these people are ones who have actually looked at it seriously and thought about it really hard and seen all of the evidence.

Whoever wrote Matthew was using the Gospel of Mark. And you say, like, virtually everybody agrees with that. You say virtually because there will be some exceptions. But the reason that you say that is because these are— Most of these people are ones who have actually looked at it seriously and thought about it really hard and seen all of the evidence.

Whoever wrote Matthew was using the Gospel of Mark. And you say, like, virtually everybody agrees with that. You say virtually because there will be some exceptions. But the reason that you say that is because these are— Most of these people are ones who have actually looked at it seriously and thought about it really hard and seen all of the evidence.

And on the basis of all this evidence, they say, you know, it's probably this. And so it's like, you know, it's like that in every field.

And on the basis of all this evidence, they say, you know, it's probably this. And so it's like, you know, it's like that in every field.

And on the basis of all this evidence, they say, you know, it's probably this. And so it's like, you know, it's like that in every field.

To me, it just feels like a cop-out.

To me, it just feels like a cop-out.

To me, it just feels like a cop-out.

Correct. But nobody uses it. People... People object when someone says that. They say, well, that's not an argument. But nobody's using it. They shouldn't be using it as an argument. If they are using it as an argument, that's stupid. I mean, you know, so the fact that everybody agrees the world is round doesn't mean it's round.

Correct. But nobody uses it. People... People object when someone says that. They say, well, that's not an argument. But nobody's using it. They shouldn't be using it as an argument. If they are using it as an argument, that's stupid. I mean, you know, so the fact that everybody agrees the world is round doesn't mean it's round.

Correct. But nobody uses it. People... People object when someone says that. They say, well, that's not an argument. But nobody's using it. They shouldn't be using it as an argument. If they are using it as an argument, that's stupid. I mean, you know, so the fact that everybody agrees the world is round doesn't mean it's round.

But, you know, if you don't think it's round, you really have a burden of proof. So by saying it's a consensus, you just say, yeah, okay, well, if you think otherwise, let me see your stuff.

But, you know, if you don't think it's round, you really have a burden of proof. So by saying it's a consensus, you just say, yeah, okay, well, if you think otherwise, let me see your stuff.

But, you know, if you don't think it's round, you really have a burden of proof. So by saying it's a consensus, you just say, yeah, okay, well, if you think otherwise, let me see your stuff.

Yeah, well, it's not a very good argument. I don't know who this is, but I mean, it's a very bad argument. You frequently have translations go both ways. Translated up, translated down. It's just an empirical fact. English is a much more complicated language than many works that are translated into English. And the Bible gets translated into many languages that are much more simple than Greek.