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Batya Ungar-Sargon

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Honestly with Bari Weiss
26 Executive Orders, TikTok's Future, and Elon’s Arm

I think this whole like this new like Manifest Destiny 2.0, like people like it. I mean, people vote on this stuff. You know, I don't know how important this is, but, you know, people are it gives people a sense of optimism, you know, a sense of like we're going places, a sense of like we're back, baby.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
26 Executive Orders, TikTok's Future, and Elon’s Arm

I think this whole like this new like Manifest Destiny 2.0, like people like it. I mean, people vote on this stuff. You know, I don't know how important this is, but, you know, people are it gives people a sense of optimism, you know, a sense of like we're going places, a sense of like we're back, baby.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
26 Executive Orders, TikTok's Future, and Elon’s Arm

I think this whole like this new like Manifest Destiny 2.0, like people like it. I mean, people vote on this stuff. You know, I don't know how important this is, but, you know, people are it gives people a sense of optimism, you know, a sense of like we're going places, a sense of like we're back, baby.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
26 Executive Orders, TikTok's Future, and Elon’s Arm

I've heard that as well from nutcases. All right. So I think the reason Trump did a 180 on this, I agree with everything Brianna just said. I think it's a huge, huge national security concern. I think it's destroying the minds of our children. We know kids have been pushed to commit suicide based on stuff they saw on TikTok.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
26 Executive Orders, TikTok's Future, and Elon’s Arm

I've heard that as well from nutcases. All right. So I think the reason Trump did a 180 on this, I agree with everything Brianna just said. I think it's a huge, huge national security concern. I think it's destroying the minds of our children. We know kids have been pushed to commit suicide based on stuff they saw on TikTok.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
26 Executive Orders, TikTok's Future, and Elon’s Arm

I've heard that as well from nutcases. All right. So I think the reason Trump did a 180 on this, I agree with everything Brianna just said. I think it's a huge, huge national security concern. I think it's destroying the minds of our children. We know kids have been pushed to commit suicide based on stuff they saw on TikTok.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
26 Executive Orders, TikTok's Future, and Elon’s Arm

The Chinese won't allow their own children to use this app, which is like, OK, number one, like do not allow anything into your country that your enemy will not allow their children to look at. At first, I thought Trump, you know, did this 180 on TikTok because, you know, he used it. He you know, he got a lot of support from young people, blah, blah, blah.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
26 Executive Orders, TikTok's Future, and Elon’s Arm

The Chinese won't allow their own children to use this app, which is like, OK, number one, like do not allow anything into your country that your enemy will not allow their children to look at. At first, I thought Trump, you know, did this 180 on TikTok because, you know, he used it. He you know, he got a lot of support from young people, blah, blah, blah.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
26 Executive Orders, TikTok's Future, and Elon’s Arm

The Chinese won't allow their own children to use this app, which is like, OK, number one, like do not allow anything into your country that your enemy will not allow their children to look at. At first, I thought Trump, you know, did this 180 on TikTok because, you know, he used it. He you know, he got a lot of support from young people, blah, blah, blah.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
26 Executive Orders, TikTok's Future, and Elon’s Arm

But yesterday during the press conference that he had in the Oval Office. He talked about it in a different way. You could see like it seemed to be really authentic how he was talking about it. Basically, what he said was this app is worthless if we ban it and it's worth a trillion dollars if we allow it here to be sold to an American. You know, his. His eyeballs just became dollar signs.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
26 Executive Orders, TikTok's Future, and Elon’s Arm

But yesterday during the press conference that he had in the Oval Office. He talked about it in a different way. You could see like it seemed to be really authentic how he was talking about it. Basically, what he said was this app is worthless if we ban it and it's worth a trillion dollars if we allow it here to be sold to an American. You know, his. His eyeballs just became dollar signs.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
26 Executive Orders, TikTok's Future, and Elon’s Arm

But yesterday during the press conference that he had in the Oval Office. He talked about it in a different way. You could see like it seemed to be really authentic how he was talking about it. Basically, what he said was this app is worthless if we ban it and it's worth a trillion dollars if we allow it here to be sold to an American. You know, his. His eyeballs just became dollar signs.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
26 Executive Orders, TikTok's Future, and Elon’s Arm

And I think he just can't stand the idea of giving up half of a trillion dollars and thinks, look, if an American has it, an American owns it, an American controls it, has a controlling stake in the company, 51% stake in the company, that's just free money for us because it's already here and people are already using it. When he said that, I was like, oh, that's what he's in it for.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
26 Executive Orders, TikTok's Future, and Elon’s Arm

And I think he just can't stand the idea of giving up half of a trillion dollars and thinks, look, if an American has it, an American owns it, an American controls it, has a controlling stake in the company, 51% stake in the company, that's just free money for us because it's already here and people are already using it. When he said that, I was like, oh, that's what he's in it for.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
26 Executive Orders, TikTok's Future, and Elon’s Arm

And I think he just can't stand the idea of giving up half of a trillion dollars and thinks, look, if an American has it, an American owns it, an American controls it, has a controlling stake in the company, 51% stake in the company, that's just free money for us because it's already here and people are already using it. When he said that, I was like, oh, that's what he's in it for.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
26 Executive Orders, TikTok's Future, and Elon’s Arm

Somebody told him it's worth a trillion dollars. China will never allow it to be sold because the whole purpose of TikTok is to be- Or they'll allow it to be sold to someone who's potentially compromised. Exactly, to Elon Musk. Exactly. That's another thing to bear in mind.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
26 Executive Orders, TikTok's Future, and Elon’s Arm

Somebody told him it's worth a trillion dollars. China will never allow it to be sold because the whole purpose of TikTok is to be- Or they'll allow it to be sold to someone who's potentially compromised. Exactly, to Elon Musk. Exactly. That's another thing to bear in mind.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
26 Executive Orders, TikTok's Future, and Elon’s Arm

Somebody told him it's worth a trillion dollars. China will never allow it to be sold because the whole purpose of TikTok is to be- Or they'll allow it to be sold to someone who's potentially compromised. Exactly, to Elon Musk. Exactly. That's another thing to bear in mind.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
26 Executive Orders, TikTok's Future, and Elon’s Arm

Anybody that China allows to acquire 51% of TikTok, that person is somebody that the Chinese Communist Party believes has their interests at heart more than the Americans. And so that is a very important thing to keep in mind as well. I totally appreciate that point, Barry. So, you know, from that point of view, somebody has to convey this to Trump. This is extremely important.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
26 Executive Orders, TikTok's Future, and Elon’s Arm

Anybody that China allows to acquire 51% of TikTok, that person is somebody that the Chinese Communist Party believes has their interests at heart more than the Americans. And so that is a very important thing to keep in mind as well. I totally appreciate that point, Barry. So, you know, from that point of view, somebody has to convey this to Trump. This is extremely important.