Belinda Smith

We'll have the interview with Science Minister Tim Ayres, but I'll also be looking at the state of Australian research funding and how we got here.

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I'm Belinda Smith.

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We need to take our critics and our cheerleaders and turn them into coaches.

Time for another science show, and this time with energetic nylons.

I'm Belinda Smith.

And as we explore the unexpected, for the first time in the science show, a young person who once hated science.

Chloe Kwan, now 15.

But why then, as she asked, so young, did she have that loathing of science lessons?

That's later.

First, I want to ask Belle a question about these last two astounding weeks.

On the one hand, we're told to endure the prospect of wiping out civilization, along with thousands of lives who happen to be in the way.

But by contrast, there was Artemis, offering discovery and joy.

Yes, one was politics, the other was science.

Bell, my late friend Tim Radford, one of the truly great science journalists of our times, said that despite his reservations, when Apollo first took off, all that time ago, to land on the moon, it was one of the most exciting experiences imaginable.

A civilising experience, joy...

Did you feel the same?