Bella Freud

And other colors, he has to step up and work on their behalf.

And I thought that was a useful thing to know about your own wardrobe.

And you're an award-winning singer, songwriter, dancer, actor, and producer.

And you were described in one of the many accolades I've read about you as an Olympian of pop performance, an artist who wields her unbelievable physical prowess to illustrate every tricky subtlety of her music.

And your mother was a dancer and a gymnast.

And I wondered, was it her who instilled your belief in how amazing a body can be?

Yeah, it's interesting your mother saying that thing about the heartbreak because I've heard dancers say that they experience two deaths and one is when they have to give up dance because their body can't.

You know, they have an injury or they just can't do the things they did.

And you can understand why she didn't want you to experience this sort of tragedy so early on.

But anyway, you don't seem to...

I just can't imagine that you would ever not be able to do what you wanted because your drive is so kind of apparent in everything you do.

And it's so contagious, like listening to your music and watching you perform.

You appeal to other people.

That's my experience.

I think, yeah, God, there's more people

There's more to be had, and I like the way I'm seeing this.

It's very exciting.

And because your mother was a fashion designer and your father worked in fashion too, and I think they owned a shop together.

And I wondered, what was the first piece of clothing you became fixated on as a child?

you know making something and playing as that thing for the day was something that was welcomed in my childhood that's so nice yeah it was good because your mother sounds absolutely amazing and she did practice tests with you um to help you get your scholarship into a private school and