Ben Affleck

But this is a four-month – he can't even open both of his eyes at the same time. And it's – yeah, exactly. And that's kind of become the – As the currency of, man, that looks great, you know, like the currency of like fame in and of itself as a desirable thing. Like people go, man, I want to be rich and famous. Like take rich. You know what I mean? You know, famous is not going to make you happy.

It seems like it will because it's like, oh, people will like me and know my name and kind of know who I am and I'll feel like I've done something. I think a lot of times what happens is if it doesn't come with a real sense of like achievement or accomplishment, it actually feels hollow and empty and like bullshit and undeserved.

It seems like it will because it's like, oh, people will like me and know my name and kind of know who I am and I'll feel like I've done something. I think a lot of times what happens is if it doesn't come with a real sense of like achievement or accomplishment, it actually feels hollow and empty and like bullshit and undeserved.

It seems like it will because it's like, oh, people will like me and know my name and kind of know who I am and I'll feel like I've done something. I think a lot of times what happens is if it doesn't come with a real sense of like achievement or accomplishment, it actually feels hollow and empty and like bullshit and undeserved.

Yeah, I wanted to- Is that a weird question? But does that make any sense? No, it does make sense. I wanted to – I really – I wanted to fail on my own terms because I had gone through some movies that – where I was like, I don't like this. I don't agree with this. But you got to do – it's like playing a football team or whatever. You got to run the plays that the coach sets up.

Yeah, I wanted to- Is that a weird question? But does that make any sense? No, it does make sense. I wanted to – I really – I wanted to fail on my own terms because I had gone through some movies that – where I was like, I don't like this. I don't agree with this. But you got to do – it's like playing a football team or whatever. You got to run the plays that the coach sets up.

Yeah, I wanted to- Is that a weird question? But does that make any sense? No, it does make sense. I wanted to – I really – I wanted to fail on my own terms because I had gone through some movies that – where I was like, I don't like this. I don't agree with this. But you got to do – it's like playing a football team or whatever. You got to run the plays that the coach sets up.

You know what I mean? They're going to run a draw play, get the ball and turn around and run a sweep right because they're not blocking that way. You know what I mean? It's just – that's not going to work, right? So you – that's how – That whole art form is sort of structured by and large. And what I found was, you know, I had a real strong sense of the way I wanted to do it.

You know what I mean? They're going to run a draw play, get the ball and turn around and run a sweep right because they're not blocking that way. You know what I mean? It's just – that's not going to work, right? So you – that's how – That whole art form is sort of structured by and large. And what I found was, you know, I had a real strong sense of the way I wanted to do it.

You know what I mean? They're going to run a draw play, get the ball and turn around and run a sweep right because they're not blocking that way. You know what I mean? It's just – that's not going to work, right? So you – that's how – That whole art form is sort of structured by and large. And what I found was, you know, I had a real strong sense of the way I wanted to do it.

And when it didn't work, when it worked, I didn't feel great because it wasn't me that had that feel. You know, I didn't feel like, I didn't feel proud of it. And when it didn't work, I just felt pissed off. Like, fuck, I didn't want to fucking do it.

And when it didn't work, when it worked, I didn't feel great because it wasn't me that had that feel. You know, I didn't feel like, I didn't feel proud of it. And when it didn't work, I just felt pissed off. Like, fuck, I didn't want to fucking do it.

And when it didn't work, when it worked, I didn't feel great because it wasn't me that had that feel. You know, I didn't feel like, I didn't feel proud of it. And when it didn't work, I just felt pissed off. Like, fuck, I didn't want to fucking do it.

God damn, I didn't want to – I said it. And that's a terrible feeling. So I'd rather fail on my own terms or succeed on my own terms. And that's where I kind of got into directing. And I wanted to do it even when I was younger. And I just didn't have the confidence. And at a certain point, I kind of had nothing to lose. And that was really what kind of gave me the courage to take that leap.

God damn, I didn't want to – I said it. And that's a terrible feeling. So I'd rather fail on my own terms or succeed on my own terms. And that's where I kind of got into directing. And I wanted to do it even when I was younger. And I just didn't have the confidence. And at a certain point, I kind of had nothing to lose. And that was really what kind of gave me the courage to take that leap.

God damn, I didn't want to – I said it. And that's a terrible feeling. So I'd rather fail on my own terms or succeed on my own terms. And that's where I kind of got into directing. And I wanted to do it even when I was younger. And I just didn't have the confidence. And at a certain point, I kind of had nothing to lose. And that was really what kind of gave me the courage to take that leap.

Into directing, you mean? Yeah. Yeah, because as an actor, I sort of got real cold and had a couple of movies that didn't work. And then all of a sudden, it can be kind of over for you. That's why it's a tough business. Fuck, yeah, man. There's no seniority. There's no tenure. There's no retirement. There's no gold watch.

Into directing, you mean? Yeah. Yeah, because as an actor, I sort of got real cold and had a couple of movies that didn't work. And then all of a sudden, it can be kind of over for you. That's why it's a tough business. Fuck, yeah, man. There's no seniority. There's no tenure. There's no retirement. There's no gold watch.

Into directing, you mean? Yeah. Yeah, because as an actor, I sort of got real cold and had a couple of movies that didn't work. And then all of a sudden, it can be kind of over for you. That's why it's a tough business. Fuck, yeah, man. There's no seniority. There's no tenure. There's no retirement. There's no gold watch.

If your show doesn't work or your movie doesn't work and nobody wants to hire you, they're just going to hire someone else. You know, there's 130,000 people in SAG, and there's only 30,000 people that work every year, right? And then there's an even smaller amount of those roles where, you know, you have more than two lines. So it's a very—it's very tough, right?