Ben Affleck

He wanted to work in movies, and it was like, you can't go from TV to movies.

Very few people can do it.

And he really strategically and kind of patiently, like, he joked that on the last episode he was on, Anthony Edwards, you know, his co-star, was making a million bucks for the episode, and he was making, you know...

20 grand or whatever his deal was.

He could have renegotiated, but he would have had to give more years.

That's how bad he wanted to get off the biggest TV show in the world because there was such a big kind of level change between features and TV.

Well, then movies started to move towards more IP.

And so an interesting little movie, kind of in the 90s when we kind of came onto the scene, you know, there were a lot of really good independent movies that were being made.

There was, you know, it was a really great time to be making movies.

People were, they were making daring movies and then everyone just got way more conservative because it's huge.

Like the business is so different theatrically and streaming because to put out a movie theatrically, you have to put so much more money behind it to publicize.

Like you're trying to get everybody.

Yeah, because you split it with the movie house, right, through the exhibit.

And you got to get everybody to not only know about the movie, but to show up like that Friday night, like that specific time, you know, for that specific movie.

And to cut through all the noise that people are contending with.

Way more attention.

Like when I went to see one battle on IMAX, that feeling, there's nothing like that feeling.

I took two of my kids and two of my nephews and...

my wife and we all went and we, it was just, it was like, and you're in with, you know, a bunch of strangers, but people in your community and you're having this experience together.

I always say it's more like going to, going to church.