Ben Austen

But that feels like a revisionist history of how you saw that picture that loomed in your imagination.

You know, Eddie, I feel like your version of me

Today and over time is both I'm way worse than I am and I'm better than I am.

There's a little bit of way of when you're saying you're seeing my true self.

I guess what I'm saying is I'm not, you're also seeing these two extremes and I'm some, I'm not really either of those.

As he's pointing at this photo of me, it's like everything has flipped.

I'm no longer even a bully when I was a kid.

And as an adult, he's talking about me like this great liberator.

He even compares me at one point to a famous rabbi who marched with Martin Luther King.

In some ways, what I'm hearing is I've sort of liberated you from this stuff, which is also feels... Yeah, I don't know.

That doesn't feel exactly me either.

I mean, I try to do...

I want to do good.

It sounds like Eddie's a pretty good rabbi, and that he got what he needed from me.

See, I'm not such a bad guy.

But I got something out of this, too.

It's clear Eddie and I didn't know each other well as kids, and certainly not as adults either.

But here I am in Florida, in his subdivision, in his home.

I can see the books on his shelves.

His kids' artwork is on the walls.