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Yeah, that's what people say about me. Yeah.

Sounds like big dairy to me, bro.

Milk, it's what's in your blood.

That's what everybody says about you, man.

I also love, you know, like any other damn peer, I am a huge supporter of blood donations. You know what I mean?

Oh, like if you steal a Honda Civic, you make more money selling parts of the Civic.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Which is the new up-and-coming, we call it kiddo currency. Mm-hmm. It is Evans and Bolins. That's right. Selfie rate production. We're a limited liability company, so don't try to come at us. Don't even try. Yeah.

They are not light. This is going to be great for our lats.

You know, what's amazing about this is somebody, one of us is listening right now and is doing the fireman carry with a goat. And they're like, I'm fucking ahead in the game.

Yeah, the orange juice and the crackers don't quite get you back to 100%. I think it was something like pre-pandemic, I want to say, still a very small amount of people in the U.S. donated blood.

Okay. So it's like maybe a concentration of those vectors, something like that. Yeah. The further I say this, the dumber I'll sound. Yeah.

And this exists in a profit-seeking environment.

Ooh, by value, not by liquid weight. Okay.

Yeah, like our... Like our ongoing, quite successful bag of catalytic converters business. Exactly.

Clever, clever question, Robert, because that would factor in things like plasma. Right, yes, of course. Okay, so with that, I would... Gosh, it's a difficult question. It's a difficult question. I don't know the answer.

Finally, yes. We've been living the dream, dying the dream. Yes, here we go. Yeah, it's great to it's great to be back. It's great to hang out with you. I was thinking of you and the team recently because I don't know whether you recall, Robert, but know these many years ago when you were just beginning a podcast called Behind the Bastards.

Right. Or if someone had previously donated to one institution. Right.

The blood money industry? Right. The blood money. Yes.

ah the people who are uh loophole enslaved in this country yes yes yes and you know there are several things

The days of stray blood are over. That's right. That's what we're aspiring toward. I hate that we have to bring this up. Another thing going into this, if we are counting something, we being human civilization, as a vital resource such that we're going to cut some corners- Corners to get enough of it, sure. Yeah, due diligence. then we're also going to, oh, we already did it.

We already cut the corners on liability or responsibility. I don't know, man. I just, I... Robert, you know, I'm a fan of the show. I don't want to spoil it, but it doesn't sound like this ends well. I thought maybe this would be the one happy episode.

Yeah, because these people have the incarcerated in the U.S. penal system have very little recourse. Yes.

That's top 10. Yes. That's top 10.

Right, right. And further, come on, let's spend a little time just scratching behind the ears of statements like non-binding. Come on, pinky swear me. You guys, let's pinky swear. Just not here. Right. Just somewhere else.

The earlier laws regarding U.S. produced propaganda, for instance. Right. Right. Oh, geez. Well, this don't do it. Don't do it here. Don't you know, it's like it's like the shitty stepdad. Yeah. About smoking cigarettes. Yeah. Just don't do it. Well, you know, I can see it. I don't want to tell your mama smelled it.

Yeah. Or 70s. Well, still, I had someone in that level. Yeah. The judiciary at that time. Yeah. Probably. They probably got their own, you know, crime. Some shit. Yeah.

They got that seven-league stare. You know what I mean?

It's like here in Atlanta, you might hang out in various... Well, I'll say it. If someone is too hard into crack cocaine or methamphetamine, and you know that person, and they tell you not to hang out with Wild Jimmy, then don't hang out with Wild Jimmy.

But this shows us the extent of the problem, and perhaps it shows us that the money moved despite observations of what would have been the rule of law, right?

Oh, it's non-binding. Sorry. It's not binding. Right.

Go USA. To an extent, yes.

Cut to Governor Clinton doing a sick saxophone riff. Oh, yeah.

Oh, the right to bleed.

It's guards, right? I mean, come on. I thought you were going to be fun about it, but no, you're right.

Anything can be currency.

Despite clearly, provably having something like hepatitis A through C, HIV, etc.

Yeah, like it's, you know, the modern era. You got to... Yeah. We know, right? We know that someone will do something.

Yeah, right. Someone will always do something. Tragedy of the commons. You walk into a public space and you go, man, surely somebody sweeps here. Yeah.

I mean, you know, not me, obviously, but surely someone along the chain.

Oh, hi. Also, wait, before we go, I do want to point this out. For anybody who is a nurse or RN associated listening, that is not to denigrate at all. No, no, no. You guys have a lot of stuff you're doing. Yeah.

True. Yeah. It's like it's it's like a single knife versus Swiss Army knife.

Yeah. So this this all, you know, just like as a representative of big vampire. Yeah. This sounds too expensive.

Anyone professional. Yeah. Let's get let's get rid of these fancy degree types. I want someone on the ground who ask fewer questions.

Oh, my God.

Yeah. Yeah. You don't have to be a perfect person to exercise logic. That's what he's doing.

That's really well put, too. That's one of the best articulations I've heard of that. Honestly, I'm not blowing smoke. There is an interlinked system. Regardless of whether people want to admit that is deeply tied together.

You should care. Maybe you should maybe not try to give them diseases while stealing their blood.

I mean, just like, you know, if you're spitballing, right?

All right, hang on. You said you were going to be cool. You're right, you're right, you're right.

Wait, you have this confirmed?

Think about it.

They like it though.

And then the question that we have to ask on behalf of everybody tuning in, the question is, at what threshold can we still maintain some sort of possible, if not plausible, deniability, right?

Just wrap it up. Wrap up the investigation. Get back to your fucking saxophone. Right. And play nice.

Whatever you want, buddy.

Oh, man, I'm so stoked about how great this is all going. Yeah, it's going to be good. I feel like this is a real cliffhanger. This is a turn moment.

You graced us with with an appearance, a cameo, dropped a hot 16 on a show we do called Ridiculous. Yes. Do you remember that?

You should already get bonus points for recognizing that blood exists. Right.

Yeah, who knows, Robert?

Yeah, maybe the real blood money was the friends we made along the way and whatever. But yes, this is a story more people need to learn about. And I think it's a story that a lot of people are a little bit shook to investigate because in very divisive domestic times, it may tell you a narrative that you don't want to hear.

Everybody needs it. We need someone to write the full parody lyrics of this. Send it to us. Copyright free. Copyright free. Absolutely. Copyright or whatever.

I think maybe like, yeah, thank you in advance, folks. Maybe like just a non sequitur, you know, there's no joke, like an old joke, especially a specific one. So give it, you know, give it a few years.

Oh, boy. Fuck it. That's the real banality of evil. Oh, geez.

Ah, yes, theinternet.com. That's a real up-and-coming thing, and thank you for asking, Robert. Well, you can find me hanging out occasionally with you on Behind the Bastards in Ages Past. You can check out Critical Thinking Applied to Allegations of Conspiracy and Stuff They Don't Want You to Know or Ridiculous History. You can also find myself calling meself at Ben Bolin.

and a burst of creativity, wherever there's an at sign. And then, you know, before now, you could have found me just freestyle selling blood on the streets, but I'm really excited about the catalytic converter thing. I think that's going to be big for us.

Yeah, that's the problem. It's like, not only do you have too much blood, but your humors are off, dog. You know what I mean?

Right. We have to sacrifice a certain amount of people. Yes.

Sometimes if the computer doesn't work, it's because there's too much blood.

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we should look out for the outlook religion. Mm hmm.

Or do you just have a knife that has occasionally been used for sacrifice?

Folks, folks, Robert just did pull it up. And while you know it is to his right, it is to his right.

You're right. Yes. Oregon originated as a supremacist.

Yeah.

Well, it's also like, you know, a modern comparison, Robert, might be the idea of heart transplants, right? With non-human organs. Right, right. Not to get too far ahead, but like that's a situation where current human technology can sort of band-aid you. You might make it, you know, a year or so. Yeah. It's not an actual facts human heart.

Do you mean like- Ben Bolin, host of Stuff They Don't Want You to Know and Ridiculous History and a bunch of other stuff. All right, all right. You mentioned one of them, yes. Like as a fan or just the industry overall?

It reminds me of, and I don't know enough to speak off expertise here, but it reminds me of that old trick with elderly cars, I'll call them vintage cars, where if the radiator is fucking up, you can put a couple things in to just keep the radiator going until you get to the gas station. So maybe the lamb's blood thing is like that.

Quick question, though. Quick question. Yeah. Robert, if you're imagining it, and Sophie as well, this World War II doctor who stumbled upon coconut water band-aiding blood or the circulatory-

if that is how it happened uh yeah what what do you imagine like if their hand is going over a table with all sorts of other on it what else did they look at first what do you think yeah given the state of things at the time straight liquor what if we just put some jim bean in there will that save their lives And they're like, no, we're saving the liquor for the guys who aren't bleeding out.