Ben Bowlin
Appearances
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Yeah. Excuse me. Excuse me, waiter. Send this blood back. Yeah.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Also blood launderer as a job. This is blood laundering. Yeah. We're in the wrong business. Yeah.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
People always say that.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Store is cool blood stored in a dark place.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
It's illegal for you guys to ask Robert that it's important.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Yeah. It's also important to realize that the fewer questions you ask, the bigger of a price break you get.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
And that seems to be an unfortunate truth as this, we could even call it a sort of blood economy begins to arise.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Like also you can't just say I disagree with the premise.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
I just, I love the idea of Bob Robb pulling a hot tag base on something where, you know, like this guy might get arrested with a bunch of guns with the serial numbers filed off. And they're like, hey, we got you with a bunch of guns, you know, in your Honda Civic. And he's like, officer, I disagree with the premise.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
It sounds like one of those things where the public wider audience is somehow different from the specific audience this guy is speaking to. Yeah, maybe. He might be given some guarantees to some folks. Yeah, yeah.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
And to be clear, these are all, for everyone listening, these are all innocent people who are taking- Easily preventable deaths too, yes. Easily preventable deaths. Also, this is medicine that they need to live.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
The young upstarts. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, our shitty cousins. Yeah. Crap the bag once again.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Right. Right. You have you ever found yourself in that situation? Oh, gosh.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Oops. You just trip with a stack of papers and fall toward the shredder.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
That's how you and I got started before this whole podcasting thing. We would just hang out and throw some stuff into shredders and high five each other.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were entirely wrong, but we had too much blood back then.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Yeah, let's make it official with our bud.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
I like the order of operations with those commendations. Yes. Oh, and third, he's pretty good. He's a good lawyer. Yeah. Yeah. He's all right at that one, but first.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
You haven't seen him on the bird.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
You could just, it's something in the eyes. You know, it's a vibe.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Nor exonerate, to be quite honest. And I love the point that we're bringing up here about how easy it is to heap opprobrium on someone that you already don't care for or disagree with. But just like the soul-crushing thing where someone you hate makes a really good point objectively, you also have to have that moment where even someone you might like
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
does really just unclean, evil shit for a federal judge to say there are evil people involved. Yes.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Yeah. You know, people like blind.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Maybe the problem is monetizing everything.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
There's never an organ surplus. Right.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Nobody's figured that out except for Robert Evans, creator of Behind the Bastards, who has several jars of, we'll call it gently used vintage blood.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
You're good. No refunds. Also contains X amount of ethanol.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Oh, and HMA is... Health Management Associates Incorporated. What do we always say about innocuous names, right?
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Guys, this dude may have made a couple hundred thousand dollars illegally. So let's rebuild those guillotines.
Behind the Bastards
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Or at least willfully ignorant.
Behind the Bastards
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They're founded by Janine Murder.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Well, I hear you there, too, because there's there's this. devilishly tempting draw right to to find a political force you disagree with or you already don't care for and then assign them super villainous agency where the you know the result is uh without being too controversial. The result is you ultimately have to ask yourself, is there any such thing as a completely clean POTUS, right?
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
And what does it take to play that game? Yeah.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
yes and that is i think one of our look i know it's your show but i think that's one of the key takeaways is it is it is tempting again to look at the headline to put a face on a problem right now i'm mad insert individual here yeah the real problems are systemic and have always been and shall always be slow be so uh uh and with that um
Behind the Bastards
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I got to tell you, it's a question that's been on my mind for both of these episodes.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Even better, bro. You're not buying it. We do a subscription service. Oh shit. Awesome.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Well, we say leasing. Yeah, yeah.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Oh my gosh. I'm so excited. You have to, you have to come back on stuff that once you, or you've never been on that one, come back on ridiculous history while we can still call it history.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Jordan got us again. Yeah. Oh, my gosh.
Behind the Bastards
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Oh, sure. Other than Rent-A-Blood, which is clearly our main focus for both of these episodes, please check out Stuff They Don't Want You To Know, which applies critical thinking to allegations of conspiracy. Please check out Ridiculous History, where you can hear our own friend Robert Evans. Robert, pause. Evans, you like that? Just check it.
Behind the Bastards
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Social security number beep on the show a couple of times. Most importantly, most importantly, I think you guys plug something. I'm just throwing the ball over the court here. Just doing like a halftime. Go for it. You know what I mean?
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Shout out to Kelly Duda, by the way, for standing tall in Italian court.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
I'm doing well. I got to tell you, Robert, I got a little bit of epaulette envy right now because your jacket's pretty sick. I got a jacket like that, but it's stored away for specific purposes. I apologize. I'm like some guy rocking up to the White House without a suit on, you know?
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
The secondary infection of a mass outbreak of dickishness. So we could say then –
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
but we could say then that not only is this family being targeted unfairly through some groundswell of mob rule but they're being targeted at one of the worst possible moments of their lives yeah i remember when i was in school in like the 90s we had like school lectures about how like yeah there was a kid with hiv i think because you'd gotten it through a blood donation
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Which might sound silly to us now.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
You were there. Yeah. Just like you were there at the JFK assassination. We know.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
All right. We're keeping it on air. Bernie, come find us. Buy some catalytic converters.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
So they scoped in and cauterized the wound, essentially.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Finally. Finally. On the up and up.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Someone doing blood money the right way.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
But, you know, yours is diamond encrusted. That's the important part of the story.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Think about it. That's why I made my money off a platelet emerald buying.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Oh, wait, wait, wait. Let me do it. Hey, Robert, how much money was in this for the prison system? Hmm.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Yeah, that's the question. I think all of us hearing this are going to be asking naturally, is this a cutout? Is this like a proxy to move or sluice some money through?