Ben Bowlin

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh my gosh. Yeah.

Oh my gosh. Yeah.

Yeah. Excuse me. Excuse me, waiter. Send this blood back. Yeah.

Yeah. Excuse me. Excuse me, waiter. Send this blood back. Yeah.

Also blood launderer as a job. This is blood laundering. Yeah. We're in the wrong business. Yeah.

Also blood launderer as a job. This is blood laundering. Yeah. We're in the wrong business. Yeah.

People always say that.

People always say that.

Store is cool blood stored in a dark place.

Store is cool blood stored in a dark place.

It's illegal for you guys to ask Robert that it's important.

It's illegal for you guys to ask Robert that it's important.

Yeah. It's also important to realize that the fewer questions you ask, the bigger of a price break you get.

Yeah. It's also important to realize that the fewer questions you ask, the bigger of a price break you get.

And that seems to be an unfortunate truth as this, we could even call it a sort of blood economy begins to arise.

And that seems to be an unfortunate truth as this, we could even call it a sort of blood economy begins to arise.

Like also you can't just say I disagree with the premise.

Like also you can't just say I disagree with the premise.

I just, I love the idea of Bob Robb pulling a hot tag base on something where, you know, like this guy might get arrested with a bunch of guns with the serial numbers filed off. And they're like, hey, we got you with a bunch of guns, you know, in your Honda Civic. And he's like, officer, I disagree with the premise.

I just, I love the idea of Bob Robb pulling a hot tag base on something where, you know, like this guy might get arrested with a bunch of guns with the serial numbers filed off. And they're like, hey, we got you with a bunch of guns, you know, in your Honda Civic. And he's like, officer, I disagree with the premise.

It sounds like one of those things where the public wider audience is somehow different from the specific audience this guy is speaking to. Yeah, maybe. He might be given some guarantees to some folks. Yeah, yeah.

It sounds like one of those things where the public wider audience is somehow different from the specific audience this guy is speaking to. Yeah, maybe. He might be given some guarantees to some folks. Yeah, yeah.

And to be clear, these are all, for everyone listening, these are all innocent people who are taking- Easily preventable deaths too, yes. Easily preventable deaths. Also, this is medicine that they need to live.

And to be clear, these are all, for everyone listening, these are all innocent people who are taking- Easily preventable deaths too, yes. Easily preventable deaths. Also, this is medicine that they need to live.

The young upstarts. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, our shitty cousins. Yeah. Crap the bag once again.

The young upstarts. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, our shitty cousins. Yeah. Crap the bag once again.

Oops.

Oops.

Right. Right. You have you ever found yourself in that situation? Oh, gosh.

Right. Right. You have you ever found yourself in that situation? Oh, gosh.

Oops. You just trip with a stack of papers and fall toward the shredder.

Oops. You just trip with a stack of papers and fall toward the shredder.

That's how you and I got started before this whole podcasting thing. We would just hang out and throw some stuff into shredders and high five each other.

That's how you and I got started before this whole podcasting thing. We would just hang out and throw some stuff into shredders and high five each other.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were entirely wrong, but we had too much blood back then.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were entirely wrong, but we had too much blood back then.

Yeah, let's make it official with our bud.

Yeah, let's make it official with our bud.

I like the order of operations with those commendations. Yes. Oh, and third, he's pretty good. He's a good lawyer. Yeah. Yeah. He's all right at that one, but first.

I like the order of operations with those commendations. Yes. Oh, and third, he's pretty good. He's a good lawyer. Yeah. Yeah. He's all right at that one, but first.

You haven't seen him on the bird.

You haven't seen him on the bird.

You could just, it's something in the eyes. You know, it's a vibe.

You could just, it's something in the eyes. You know, it's a vibe.

Nor exonerate, to be quite honest. And I love the point that we're bringing up here about how easy it is to heap opprobrium on someone that you already don't care for or disagree with. But just like the soul-crushing thing where someone you hate makes a really good point objectively, you also have to have that moment where even someone you might like

Nor exonerate, to be quite honest. And I love the point that we're bringing up here about how easy it is to heap opprobrium on someone that you already don't care for or disagree with. But just like the soul-crushing thing where someone you hate makes a really good point objectively, you also have to have that moment where even someone you might like

does really just unclean, evil shit for a federal judge to say there are evil people involved. Yes.

does really just unclean, evil shit for a federal judge to say there are evil people involved. Yes.

Yeah. You know, people like blind.

Yeah. You know, people like blind.

Maybe the problem is monetizing everything.

Maybe the problem is monetizing everything.

There's never an organ surplus. Right.

There's never an organ surplus. Right.

Nobody's figured that out except for Robert Evans, creator of Behind the Bastards, who has several jars of, we'll call it gently used vintage blood.

Nobody's figured that out except for Robert Evans, creator of Behind the Bastards, who has several jars of, we'll call it gently used vintage blood.

You're good. No refunds. Also contains X amount of ethanol.

You're good. No refunds. Also contains X amount of ethanol.

Oh, and HMA is... Health Management Associates Incorporated. What do we always say about innocuous names, right?

Oh, and HMA is... Health Management Associates Incorporated. What do we always say about innocuous names, right?

Guys, this dude may have made a couple hundred thousand dollars illegally. So let's rebuild those guillotines.

Guys, this dude may have made a couple hundred thousand dollars illegally. So let's rebuild those guillotines.

Or at least willfully ignorant.

Or at least willfully ignorant.

They're founded by Janine Murder.

They're founded by Janine Murder.

Well, I hear you there, too, because there's there's this. devilishly tempting draw right to to find a political force you disagree with or you already don't care for and then assign them super villainous agency where the you know the result is uh without being too controversial. The result is you ultimately have to ask yourself, is there any such thing as a completely clean POTUS, right?

Well, I hear you there, too, because there's there's this. devilishly tempting draw right to to find a political force you disagree with or you already don't care for and then assign them super villainous agency where the you know the result is uh without being too controversial. The result is you ultimately have to ask yourself, is there any such thing as a completely clean POTUS, right?

And what does it take to play that game? Yeah.

And what does it take to play that game? Yeah.

yes and that is i think one of our look i know it's your show but i think that's one of the key takeaways is it is it is tempting again to look at the headline to put a face on a problem right now i'm mad insert individual here yeah the real problems are systemic and have always been and shall always be slow be so uh uh and with that um

yes and that is i think one of our look i know it's your show but i think that's one of the key takeaways is it is it is tempting again to look at the headline to put a face on a problem right now i'm mad insert individual here yeah the real problems are systemic and have always been and shall always be slow be so uh uh and with that um

I got to tell you, it's a question that's been on my mind for both of these episodes.

I got to tell you, it's a question that's been on my mind for both of these episodes.

Even better, bro. You're not buying it. We do a subscription service. Oh shit. Awesome.

Even better, bro. You're not buying it. We do a subscription service. Oh shit. Awesome.

Well, we say leasing. Yeah, yeah.

Well, we say leasing. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, perfect.

Yeah, perfect.

Oh my gosh. I'm so excited. You have to, you have to come back on stuff that once you, or you've never been on that one, come back on ridiculous history while we can still call it history.

Oh my gosh. I'm so excited. You have to, you have to come back on stuff that once you, or you've never been on that one, come back on ridiculous history while we can still call it history.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Jordan got us again. Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Jordan got us again. Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

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Social security number beep on the show a couple of times. Most importantly, most importantly, I think you guys plug something. I'm just throwing the ball over the court here. Just doing like a halftime. Go for it. You know what I mean?

Social security number beep on the show a couple of times. Most importantly, most importantly, I think you guys plug something. I'm just throwing the ball over the court here. Just doing like a halftime. Go for it. You know what I mean?

Shout out to Kelly Duda, by the way, for standing tall in Italian court.

Shout out to Kelly Duda, by the way, for standing tall in Italian court.

I'm doing well. I got to tell you, Robert, I got a little bit of epaulette envy right now because your jacket's pretty sick. I got a jacket like that, but it's stored away for specific purposes. I apologize. I'm like some guy rocking up to the White House without a suit on, you know?

I'm doing well. I got to tell you, Robert, I got a little bit of epaulette envy right now because your jacket's pretty sick. I got a jacket like that, but it's stored away for specific purposes. I apologize. I'm like some guy rocking up to the White House without a suit on, you know?

The secondary infection of a mass outbreak of dickishness. So we could say then –

The secondary infection of a mass outbreak of dickishness. So we could say then –

but we could say then that not only is this family being targeted unfairly through some groundswell of mob rule but they're being targeted at one of the worst possible moments of their lives yeah i remember when i was in school in like the 90s we had like school lectures about how like yeah there was a kid with hiv i think because you'd gotten it through a blood donation

but we could say then that not only is this family being targeted unfairly through some groundswell of mob rule but they're being targeted at one of the worst possible moments of their lives yeah i remember when i was in school in like the 90s we had like school lectures about how like yeah there was a kid with hiv i think because you'd gotten it through a blood donation

Which might sound silly to us now.

Which might sound silly to us now.

You were there. Yeah. Just like you were there at the JFK assassination. We know.

You were there. Yeah. Just like you were there at the JFK assassination. We know.

All right. We're keeping it on air. Bernie, come find us. Buy some catalytic converters.

All right. We're keeping it on air. Bernie, come find us. Buy some catalytic converters.

So they scoped in and cauterized the wound, essentially.

So they scoped in and cauterized the wound, essentially.

Finally. Finally. On the up and up.

Finally. Finally. On the up and up.

Someone doing blood money the right way.

Someone doing blood money the right way.

But, you know, yours is diamond encrusted. That's the important part of the story.

But, you know, yours is diamond encrusted. That's the important part of the story.

Think about it. That's why I made my money off a platelet emerald buying.

Think about it. That's why I made my money off a platelet emerald buying.

Oh, wait, wait, wait. Let me do it. Hey, Robert, how much money was in this for the prison system? Hmm.

Oh, wait, wait, wait. Let me do it. Hey, Robert, how much money was in this for the prison system? Hmm.

Yeah, that's the question. I think all of us hearing this are going to be asking naturally, is this a cutout? Is this like a proxy to move or sluice some money through?

Yeah, that's the question. I think all of us hearing this are going to be asking naturally, is this a cutout? Is this like a proxy to move or sluice some money through?

Yeah.

Oh my gosh. Yeah.

Yeah. Excuse me. Excuse me, waiter. Send this blood back. Yeah.

Also blood launderer as a job. This is blood laundering. Yeah. We're in the wrong business. Yeah.

People always say that.

Store is cool blood stored in a dark place.

It's illegal for you guys to ask Robert that it's important.

Yeah. It's also important to realize that the fewer questions you ask, the bigger of a price break you get.

And that seems to be an unfortunate truth as this, we could even call it a sort of blood economy begins to arise.

Like also you can't just say I disagree with the premise.

I just, I love the idea of Bob Robb pulling a hot tag base on something where, you know, like this guy might get arrested with a bunch of guns with the serial numbers filed off. And they're like, hey, we got you with a bunch of guns, you know, in your Honda Civic. And he's like, officer, I disagree with the premise.

It sounds like one of those things where the public wider audience is somehow different from the specific audience this guy is speaking to. Yeah, maybe. He might be given some guarantees to some folks. Yeah, yeah.

And to be clear, these are all, for everyone listening, these are all innocent people who are taking- Easily preventable deaths too, yes. Easily preventable deaths. Also, this is medicine that they need to live.

The young upstarts. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, our shitty cousins. Yeah. Crap the bag once again.

Oops.

Right. Right. You have you ever found yourself in that situation? Oh, gosh.

Oops. You just trip with a stack of papers and fall toward the shredder.

That's how you and I got started before this whole podcasting thing. We would just hang out and throw some stuff into shredders and high five each other.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were entirely wrong, but we had too much blood back then.

Yeah, let's make it official with our bud.

I like the order of operations with those commendations. Yes. Oh, and third, he's pretty good. He's a good lawyer. Yeah. Yeah. He's all right at that one, but first.

You haven't seen him on the bird.

You could just, it's something in the eyes. You know, it's a vibe.

Nor exonerate, to be quite honest. And I love the point that we're bringing up here about how easy it is to heap opprobrium on someone that you already don't care for or disagree with. But just like the soul-crushing thing where someone you hate makes a really good point objectively, you also have to have that moment where even someone you might like

does really just unclean, evil shit for a federal judge to say there are evil people involved. Yes.

Yeah. You know, people like blind.

Maybe the problem is monetizing everything.

There's never an organ surplus. Right.

Nobody's figured that out except for Robert Evans, creator of Behind the Bastards, who has several jars of, we'll call it gently used vintage blood.

You're good. No refunds. Also contains X amount of ethanol.

Oh, and HMA is... Health Management Associates Incorporated. What do we always say about innocuous names, right?

Guys, this dude may have made a couple hundred thousand dollars illegally. So let's rebuild those guillotines.

Or at least willfully ignorant.

They're founded by Janine Murder.

Well, I hear you there, too, because there's there's this. devilishly tempting draw right to to find a political force you disagree with or you already don't care for and then assign them super villainous agency where the you know the result is uh without being too controversial. The result is you ultimately have to ask yourself, is there any such thing as a completely clean POTUS, right?

And what does it take to play that game? Yeah.

yes and that is i think one of our look i know it's your show but i think that's one of the key takeaways is it is it is tempting again to look at the headline to put a face on a problem right now i'm mad insert individual here yeah the real problems are systemic and have always been and shall always be slow be so uh uh and with that um

I got to tell you, it's a question that's been on my mind for both of these episodes.

Even better, bro. You're not buying it. We do a subscription service. Oh shit. Awesome.

Well, we say leasing. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, perfect.

Oh my gosh. I'm so excited. You have to, you have to come back on stuff that once you, or you've never been on that one, come back on ridiculous history while we can still call it history.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Jordan got us again. Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

Oh, sure. Other than Rent-A-Blood, which is clearly our main focus for both of these episodes, please check out Stuff They Don't Want You To Know, which applies critical thinking to allegations of conspiracy. Please check out Ridiculous History, where you can hear our own friend Robert Evans. Robert, pause. Evans, you like that? Just check it.

Social security number beep on the show a couple of times. Most importantly, most importantly, I think you guys plug something. I'm just throwing the ball over the court here. Just doing like a halftime. Go for it. You know what I mean?

Shout out to Kelly Duda, by the way, for standing tall in Italian court.

I'm doing well. I got to tell you, Robert, I got a little bit of epaulette envy right now because your jacket's pretty sick. I got a jacket like that, but it's stored away for specific purposes. I apologize. I'm like some guy rocking up to the White House without a suit on, you know?

The secondary infection of a mass outbreak of dickishness. So we could say then –

but we could say then that not only is this family being targeted unfairly through some groundswell of mob rule but they're being targeted at one of the worst possible moments of their lives yeah i remember when i was in school in like the 90s we had like school lectures about how like yeah there was a kid with hiv i think because you'd gotten it through a blood donation

Which might sound silly to us now.

You were there. Yeah. Just like you were there at the JFK assassination. We know.

All right. We're keeping it on air. Bernie, come find us. Buy some catalytic converters.

So they scoped in and cauterized the wound, essentially.

Finally. Finally. On the up and up.

Someone doing blood money the right way.

But, you know, yours is diamond encrusted. That's the important part of the story.

Think about it. That's why I made my money off a platelet emerald buying.

Oh, wait, wait, wait. Let me do it. Hey, Robert, how much money was in this for the prison system? Hmm.

Yeah, that's the question. I think all of us hearing this are going to be asking naturally, is this a cutout? Is this like a proxy to move or sluice some money through?