Ben Buchanan

And what we came to in the report that was published in July or so of 24 was basically there was not evidence yet to constrain the open weight ecosystem, that the open weight ecosystem does a lot for innovation and the like, which I think is manifestly true, but that we should continue to monitor this as the technology gets better, basically exactly the way that you described.

And what we came to in the report that was published in July or so of 24 was basically there was not evidence yet to constrain the open weight ecosystem, that the open weight ecosystem does a lot for innovation and the like, which I think is manifestly true, but that we should continue to monitor this as the technology gets better, basically exactly the way that you described.

I think I mentioned before this core intellectual insight of this technology for the first time maybe in a long time is a revolutionary one not funded by the government and its early incubator days. That was the theme from the labs, which is sort of like, don't you know we're inventing something very, very powerful?

I think I mentioned before this core intellectual insight of this technology for the first time maybe in a long time is a revolutionary one not funded by the government and its early incubator days. That was the theme from the labs, which is sort of like, don't you know we're inventing something very, very powerful?

Ultimately, it's going to have implications for the kind of work you do in national security, the way we organize our society. And more than any kind of individual policy request, They were basically saying, get ready for this.

Ultimately, it's going to have implications for the kind of work you do in national security, the way we organize our society. And more than any kind of individual policy request, They were basically saying, get ready for this.

The one thing that we did that could be the closest thing we did to any kind of regulation is one action, which was after the labs made voluntary commitments to do safety testing. We said, you have to share the safety test results with us and you have to help us understand where the technology is going. And that only applied really to the top couple labs. The labs never knew that was coming.

The one thing that we did that could be the closest thing we did to any kind of regulation is one action, which was after the labs made voluntary commitments to do safety testing. We said, you have to share the safety test results with us and you have to help us understand where the technology is going. And that only applied really to the top couple labs. The labs never knew that was coming.

Weren't all thrilled about it when it came out. So the notion of this was kind of a regulatory capture that we were asked to do this is simply not true. But I, in my experience, never got discrete individual policy lobbying from the labs. I got much more, this is coming, it's coming much sooner than you think. Make sure you're ready.

Weren't all thrilled about it when it came out. So the notion of this was kind of a regulatory capture that we were asked to do this is simply not true. But I, in my experience, never got discrete individual policy lobbying from the labs. I got much more, this is coming, it's coming much sooner than you think. Make sure you're ready.

To the degree that they were asking for something in particular, it was maybe a corollary of that, of we're going to need a lot of energy. And we want to do that here in the United States. And it's really hard to get the power here in the United States.

To the degree that they were asking for something in particular, it was maybe a corollary of that, of we're going to need a lot of energy. And we want to do that here in the United States. And it's really hard to get the power here in the United States.

Yeah. And this is actually, I think, an area of bipartisan agreement, which we can get to. But this is something that we really started to pay a lot of attention to in later part of 23 and most of 24 when it was clear this was going to be a bottleneck.

Yeah. And this is actually, I think, an area of bipartisan agreement, which we can get to. But this is something that we really started to pay a lot of attention to in later part of 23 and most of 24 when it was clear this was going to be a bottleneck.

And in the last week or so in office, President Biden signed an AI infrastructure executive order, which has not been repealed, which basically tries to accelerate the power development and the permitting of power and data centers here in the United States, basically for the reason that you mentioned.

And in the last week or so in office, President Biden signed an AI infrastructure executive order, which has not been repealed, which basically tries to accelerate the power development and the permitting of power and data centers here in the United States, basically for the reason that you mentioned.

Now, as someone who truly believes in climate change and environmentalism and clean power, I thought there was a double benefit to this, which is that if we did it here in the United States, it could catalyze the clean energy transition and the like. And these companies, for a variety of reasons, in general, are willing to pay more for clean energy.

Now, as someone who truly believes in climate change and environmentalism and clean power, I thought there was a double benefit to this, which is that if we did it here in the United States, it could catalyze the clean energy transition and the like. And these companies, for a variety of reasons, in general, are willing to pay more for clean energy.

And on things like geothermal and the like, our hope was we could catalyze that development and bend the cost curve and have these companies be the early adopters of that technology so we'd see a win on the climate side as well.

And on things like geothermal and the like, our hope was we could catalyze that development and bend the cost curve and have these companies be the early adopters of that technology so we'd see a win on the climate side as well.