Ben Clymer

I think that is a major problem.

And I think that is going to continue to be a problem for a long time unless somebody changes.

Look, it's integrity and it's honesty.

If somebody came to me and said, hey, they knocked on my door and said, hey, we want to buy your house.

I'd probably say, well, I really appreciate that, but we're not looking to sell it.

But in five years when my daughter's grown and we need a bigger house, I'll give you a call.

I would call that person.

And I think that person would respect me for saying, not right now, but I'll give you a shout when we're ready.

What goes on now is not at all that.

It's basically say, hey, sir, please give me your name and we'll reach out if and when we have a product available, which

It doesn't mean a thing.

It doesn't mean a thing.

If you're a celebrity, if you're an entrepreneur, if you're somebody that has a million Instagram followers, they're going to call you soon.

And if you're not, you're not going to get a call at all.

And I think that is when things get really dicey, when people that don't have purchase history is kind of like the new street cred in the watch world.

Here's another kind of interesting situation where a lot of brands are closing down all right.

So they're closing stores.

So let's say you, Patrick, were the number one Audemars Piguet client at some dealer in Ohio or something.

And you had bought a million dollars worth of APs from this authorized dealer in Ohio over the past 10 years.

And then that dealer got closed.