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Ben Gilbert

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The NFL (2026 Update)

I'm pretty sure it's even like their cameras, their on-air talent, all that.

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The NFL (2026 Update)

But the NFL, it has the exclusive right to bundle all that together and sell it as a package directly to a consumer if you want access to all the games.

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The NFL (2026 Update)

If you don't just want the ones that are on TV near you, if you want the ability to watch any game at any time.

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The NFL (2026 Update)

And it is incredible to me that that is worth $2 billion, given the NFL is actually not doing the work to produce it.

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The NFL (2026 Update)

The people who are doing the work to produce it are the people who are paying for the privilege to cover those games.

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The NFL (2026 Update)

That's a $300 million a year deal.

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The NFL (2026 Update)

So that's like a sixth of what one of these channels pays to broadcast the actual NFL.

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The NFL (2026 Update)

That's what EA pays to just license the use of the player names and team logos and all that.

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The NFL (2026 Update)

Then there's fantasy, both betting and non-betting.

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The NFL (2026 Update)

Yeah, and this is a good point to fully bring us to today.

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The NFL (2026 Update)

I think it is totally reasonable to say that the things that powered the rise of the NFL were national TV, post-war prosperity, the rise of the middle class, the Madison Avenue explosion, and the league first mentality.

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The NFL (2026 Update)

But all of this is in the 50s, 60s, and 70s.

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The NFL (2026 Update)

The thing that powered the NFL to be such a dominant force in society today is fantasy football and sports betting.

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The NFL (2026 Update)

So let's talk about fantasy first.

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The NFL (2026 Update)

Great.

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The NFL (2026 Update)

There's like 30 or 40 million people a year in the United States that play fantasy football, thus making it the way that the centerpiece of conversation with their closest friends and families and coworkers, which means you have to watch football in order to have those conversations with the people that are closest to you in your life.

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The NFL (2026 Update)

And of course, then there's sports betting, which is now becoming legalized in lots of states, but has been a force for a long time.

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The NFL (2026 Update)

Of course, you could bet legally in Las Vegas, but obviously tons of people have bookies that can just place bets for them no matter where they lived.

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The NFL (2026 Update)

And I'm shocked, shocked to find gambling going on in this establishment.

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The NFL (2026 Update)

And when you've got money riding on a game, you are absolutely going to tune in.