Ben Gilbert

Yes, and I am terrified of betraying that trust.

Like anytime we make an episode, I think of it as a churn opportunity.

If we put this in the feed, if we don't live up to the expectations that our listeners have, we will burn them and they will lose us forever.

Every minute is a churn opportunity.

All right, listeners, now is a great time to thank our presenting partner, JP Morgan Payments.

And we want to tell you about something pretty cool that we just did with them last week, which was a big live show in Las Vegas together.

Yeah, that he does.

Also, very funny to interview Matt Garman from AWS at his own event.

And I will say one of the most interesting conversations was with Max Newkirchen, the global co-head of JP Morgan Payments.

We dug into this question that I've always wondered about.

How did the leading global bank also come to own this technology business that does $18 billion a year in annual revenue on its own, separate from the rest of JP Morgan?

But it's also part of JPMorgan.

Max also told us about JPMcoin, developed by Conexus by JPMorgan, and how it's helped the bank and even Jamie evolve their thinking on how blockchain technology is transforming financial infrastructure.

Yep.

So if you want to learn more about these innovations and payments and how J.P.

Morgan can help power your business, head on over to jpmorgan.com slash acquired.

Yes.

So you're growing.

The terror is growing.

We'll come back to it.