Ben Glanfield

I was going to say, yeah, we'll ask.

I like sugar-free Red Bull racing.

I agree.

But when you're on one of those 18-hour long-haul flights, you've got to take the shoes off or else.

If I could take a detour, this is a terribly embarrassing story, but I actually have a ZM story about going to the bathroom in a cafe.

We had two interviews planned in this building.

And I did one with you guys and then I really needed to use the bathroom, but the next interview was in like an hour.

Yeah, so I thought...

I'm going to go get a coffee, but then really needed to use the bathroom.

And I was already embarrassed that I needed to use the bathroom in like a public setting.

So I ordered a coffee and then like said, oh, I'm just going to run to the bathroom.

I'll come back and pick it up takeaway because I didn't want to stay in this cafe.

No, I went to the bathroom, came back out like a couple minutes later.

And the barista said to me, by the way, are you Ben from Borderline?

I'll say what I did was wrong and I regret it, so borderline.

You're mediating our relationship now.

Exactly right.

I'm just doing schedules because a weekend for me is an entire TV series.

You're really worked up about it and I enjoy that.

Oh, it's the most fun.