Ben Harnwell

So Spain, the socialist...

Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez a month or so ago said, no, you can't use, you can't land and fly into the Middle East.

You cannot use the two military bases, Rota and Moron.

It's actually called Moron.

You can't use either.

And these are joint Spanish and American bases.

And then yesterday...

Out comes the escalation from that.

Now, if an escalation were indeed possible, Spain has closed its airspace to U.S.

military flights heading to the Middle East.

Spain's, Italy's development, our dear friend, Giorgia Foni Maloney, is, as you would expect, slightly more well-placed.

Well, Steve, you have put your finger on it.

Closing your airspace to another country is what you do in military conflict.

And you close your airspace to those countries either that you're fighting against directly or in the second order sense to those countries that are allied to the people that you're fighting.

So it's one of those two categories that you block airspace to.

You don't block airspace to your own allies, right?

So that's absolutely right, and that point needs to be made.

The Spanish question is rather – I find it difficult to – I mean, I get where they're coming from, being Spain, but their argument is basically this is illegal to use these bases because this isn't a NATO war.

There's no Article 5 here.

The problem is the two bases here, they aren't NATO bases.