Ben Harnwell

No, the beauty about this interview, Steve, is that it will land with the European peoples.

You hear politicians talking and they talk about it in slogans and soundbites and it never really lands and resonates with people because it never really...

reflects their daily perception of of lived life of lived experience of reality um that's not what you get with donald trump when he's at his best what you hear from donald trump when he's at his best is saying the truth as it corresponds to your existence that when you step out your front door look down the street what he says resonance with your empirical uh

And of course, when it's Donald Trump, he's saying what no one else will say, will have the courage to say.

And I think that's part of the background of what he was saying about the European elites being dominated by political correctness.

I'll add to this point, Steve.

People often, especially here in continental Europe, they often misunderstand Donald Trump and they misunderstand him.

President Trump said that he gets on well with the European leaders, and that's absolutely true.

You can see the rapport that he has because he's a personable guy when he's with them.

And they go back to their countries, and you see the smiles and the arm embraces and the air kissing and all the rest of it in the Oval Office.

And then they go back, they schlep back to their European capitals and say...

They say, look, see, see how well we get on.

We'll roll him.

We'll get Donald Trump to do what we want and submit to our agenda.

They don't understand the man.

Very personable guy, but is absolutely in his own skin when it comes to defending what he thinks about.

That's why they misunderstand him.

That's why they've stepped it wrong to some extent with regards to Ukraine.

And it's why what we're talking about for the U.S.

's national security strategy has taken them all by surprise, because they believed that stepping over to D.C.