Ben Harnwell

You don't go in to be magnified by the office.

And I think that is a tribute to Donald Trump, and he deserves it.

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At Harnwell, my surname.

Thanks, Steve.

God bless.

yeah well um the pope has inverted commas pope leo the 14th inverted commas has published this week his first formal teaching document it's the lowest level it's an apostolic exhortation it's not an attempt to clarify dogma or anything like that um but it is because he is

accepted by most of the 1.4 billion Catholics on the face of the planet as Pope.

It carries massive political weight.

Well, let's start at the end and work back with... I mean, I think you'd probably find an op-ed

in the New York Times or the Washington Post better written and better thought through than this.

This is basically an anthology of Pope Francis's greatest platitude.

It's not, I don't think, I don't believe, a tremendously well-written document, point one.

On the argument that he's the legitimate successor to Saint Peter and has the valid apostolic succession, I think that was a case of Bannon trolling Harnwell live on air.

We can have that debate at a later point in time if you want to do that, Steve.

Let's put it like this.

The guy is...

acknowledged is recognized by the vast majority of catholics as being the successor to saint peter via apostolic succession whether he is or not that i think i think it's fair to say the jury is still out as it has been out since 1958 um but those are those are arguments that we can get into um on another occasion for our protestant brothers and sisters right evangelical friends

The apostolic succession is basically this.

The Catholic Church has a sacramental concept of priesthood, and specifically the Catholics believe that every time a man is ordained, exclusively a man is ordained, and the bishop or the bishops place their hands on his head,