Ben Henderson

They saw me as a coffee drinker.

But anyway, then I thought my luck had changed because I think it was my girlfriend's birthday.

And her brother had bought her a voucher for this specific tea room all the way over in Leeds.

So it's a big drive to get there.

So I'm thinking, wow, this must be pretty high status.

And we get there and it was just grim.

You know, there was no one in there apart from one guy on his own who'd gone for his own little birthday tea.

So this is why you don't like tea.

Yeah, and I just, I wasn't a fan.

I love that, that's so British.

So it's more important than clothes, you know, fairly key things to human existence.

I love that.

But yeah, tea definitely is part of the war effort, isn't it?

And you get those iconic images that come out in old newsreels of, you know, bombed out homes during the Blitz.

But then these women emerge and they're still there handing out the tea and everyone's kind of smiling.

And it becomes that symbol of national resilience, doesn't it?

I know.

Well, it's an interesting story how coffee seems to have, I think, actually risen above tea among many Brits these days.

There was a bit of research that was published a few years ago which said more Brits now regularly drink coffee than tea.

And I think it's a lot to do with, you know, there's been a huge amount of marketing around coffee, isn't there?