Ben Horowitz

So you're better off decentralizing power so that the system is resistant to bad leadership.

Like, I think a country has to be resilient to bad leadership.

And that, like, if a company goes away, like, okay, fine, whatever.

Like, so, you know, the...

well dave packard and bill hewlett you know like they're gone they passed away the new leaders weren't so good like that's the end of the company fine whatever it's a company yeah they did their thing they did their job they fulfilled their mission you know a country has to persist beyond that and so like i think we already see that you know here be it like you you know on the

nation level, on the state level, on, you know, even on the city level, you can see, like, eventually you get politicians who just start giving stuff to their friends.

And then, like, everybody suffers.

At least you can vote them out.

At least you can do something.

Whereas, you know, I think in a company, you want to be as efficient as possible while, you know, while the sun is shining.

Well, I just think that, you know, not that he, like, by the way, Yale is still, like, an investor in us today.

So I just think, like, you can't let your investor, by the way, including us, like, run your company because you're on the ground in real time seeing what's happening.

They have knowledge of the past and they have a light knowledge of what you're doing, but not full context.

So they can be like, it's an interesting conversation, but, you know, the investor can't run the company.

And that's just the way it is with him and us.

Well, I mean, like I said, I think...

Well, one, I mean, there's so many things that are changing.

But, you know, and I talked about, like, you can throw money at the problem.

That's a massive change.

I think that, you know, the bottlenecks have moved.