Ben Kissel

Well, they know that they all have to play good cop all at the same time with it.

Like with Alec Murdoch, you have to play good cop all the time because he's telling so many lies and he just keeps talking because he wants to talk.

He thinks he's so fucking clever.

So you just keep this guy talking and he's eventually going to tell enough lies where you can just start tripping him up.

Well, that was one of the big tells for the investigators on the scene immediately, because they said that, you know, when you when they showed up to murder scenes, usually relatives are inconsolable.

And they're like, why are you?

They say things like, why are you here?

Why aren't you out trying to find these people?

Why aren't you talking to me?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And Alex, like, fuck.

Why don't we go sit down in my SUV for a little while?

You know, maybe we can get chat and I can tell you what's going on.

You know, it's it's been hard.

Oh, he'd acted like someone had come on and shot a couple of his dogs.

Yes.

That is the same level of emotion he was showing was the level of emotion I would show if someone had broken into my house and killed my dog.

If you do something to Carmie, I'll fucking kill you.

Yeah, but I would say I'm going to show more emotion if my wife was murdered than if my dog was murdered.