Ben Kissel

And a fantastic jazz musician.

Do you remember right before all the shit hit the fan too?

He was about to go back on tour and he was doing shows.

It was all booked.

He was doing two hour shows.

Nobody wanted to believe because of how much we put in on these guys.

That sucks, man.

You have to get sick to meet John Cena?

Well, in the Louis Thoreau thing, he said he always said that he hated children to deflect from any...

accusations.

No, he's a piece of fucking shit.

Yeah, Jimmy Savile literally said the term he was like because he couldn't say he likes kids because then he'll get done up like Mike Jackson, right?

Like that was his whole thing is that they'll come from him like... Because he called him Mike.

Of course he called him Mike.

Yeah, he called him Mike Jackson.

And so they...

Yes, but we'll go even—this is the story of his whole miserable, evil life.

It was the way he said it because it was this—he openly said—because it's just a hard thing to even—

getting the weeds on of how he was saying openly what his crimes are and what he was doing so but to comedic effect so when he was saying stuff like oh i hate kids i can't i use them for their opportunities yeah these people are all smiling because they're like simple country man saying it like it is like he doesn't really mean it obviously he loves kids sounds like a fucking joke no but he was uh he never said a single joke in his life yeah

He was fucking brilliant.