Ben Kissel
π€ SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
There was no mushrooms in her system.
She specifically didn't take mushrooms.
Everybody else was on mushrooms.
So she eventually had to go to trial.
And she was found guilty on two counts of murder.
This comes from a long, unbelievable defense where she basically said, I have an undisclosed medical condition that causes me to just go to sleep.
and that I happen to also be tired, and I also happen to be on drugs, and I also happen to be extra sleepy, so I went to sleep, and I killed everybody.
Yes, which is like, I don't want a low-energy lawyer.
I don't like one of those like,
I'll be talking with the judge after this.
That was a huge mistake.
Well, I think they thought they had a bit of overconfidence, which is really revealed in the documentary.
Oh, they tried to negotiate a plea and they said no as well.
So they went through all this.
Now she's got 15 years to life, which is still technically light.
Is it 15 for each person?
It seems that they are doing... I believe it is... Yes, you're right.