Ben Kissel

He knew how to do it all.

And it's a thing that we just desperately need and don't have anymore.

Art's interview to me was like so much more informative than the entire documentary that I saw.

Unfortunately, yes.

Art knows how to do it and he did it fucking right.

And I listened to all five and a half hours of every single interview he did with Bob.

Yeah.

You know, my problem with UFO docs is I've watched a bunch for you now.

You've watched a bunch for your job.

I do get paid.

Winston's at Moore's still had to go look at ghosts.

He had to listen to Ray's dance.

But my problem with all of them is it's like not that much information.

It's just like dudes walking through the desert with ethereal music and nothing happens.

But they're afraid to get into the full lore because they're afraid to scoop.

I feel like a lot of times they're just afraid to scare people away.

Sure.

It's one of those great ingredients for a disinformation officer.

You said he owned a brothel.

We just kind of moved past that like he didn't say that.