Ben Lindbergh

He can let it out.

And I think he kind of gives it a gravitas that it wouldn't have otherwise because that character just has such a dignity to him that even though there's some silly stuff going on around him, he kind of anchors it.

And there's that consistent theme in post-apocalyptic shows, just like, what do you have to do to survive?

And do you lose your humanity in the course of preserving your life?

And I guess that's best illustrated through Sinatra, who's the puppet master of the bunker and is trying to sort of put the best interests of the bunker and humanity first.

But then what does that do to her?

And she has to shut down the emotional side of herself and she has to be kind of cutthroat to get there.

Do you think they need podcasters in the bunker?

Do you think we would make the cut?

Would we make the priority list?

People need to be entertained, right?

When you need you need podcasts more than ever in that situation.

Like in the season two finale, they're like, you got Brad Pitt in there somewhere, but we don't.

Yeah.

People wouldn't want to think about the fact that they're in the bunker, I think.

We would need to bring them distraction of some sort.

So we would have to, I mean, you know, you did a wire pod, you know, we could just, we could do that Lost pod.

You could watch Lost.

We could do that Lost pod.

Just any kind of distraction.