Ben Lindbergh

Look, obviously, Annapurna is one of the bigger and better financed indie publishers.

And do we have to have the debate about what qualifies as indie?

I guess we do every time a technically indie game

succeeds and achieves some prominence and is potentially up for awards.

And yes, there are varying definitions of indie, and that is a broad term that applies to a lot of different games of different sizes and budgets.

But it seems like people are just discovering that Annapurna exists.

This is not new.

I understand you may not be fans of the Ellison clan, given the political leanings and alignments

With the current administration, at least some of the Ellisons, hey, sure, I'm sympathetic to that.

But, you know, suddenly everyone's like, oh, billionaires, nepo babies, funding games and getting music licenses.

I mean, if that's the worst that the Ellisons were doing, I think that we would all be better off.

Yeah.

I mean, they're the publisher, not the developer.

Right.

That, too.

Yes.

Yes, exactly.

And so, you know, I think, yes, this is well made and polished, but it's not the first game for the studio.

And the Artful Escape was somewhat successful.

And Annapurna has has pulled this off before.