Ben Lindbergh

slaughtered, executed 18 fireflies. So, you know, a handful of fireflies should be no problem for him. And so you're expecting until the last second, Ellie will save him. He will save himself. They will turn the table somehow. And it's just heartbreaking that that doesn't happen. at least until you see things from Abby's perspective, perhaps.

But yeah, if I were Joel, I'd be thinking like, hey, I don't want Ellie to have to see this because like I don't look so hot right now. I don't want her to have this memory and have nightmares of her own and also just be hell bent on exacting vengeance. And also, he doesn't know for sure that Dina or Ellie is safe.

But yeah, if I were Joel, I'd be thinking like, hey, I don't want Ellie to have to see this because like I don't look so hot right now. I don't want her to have this memory and have nightmares of her own and also just be hell bent on exacting vengeance. And also, he doesn't know for sure that Dina or Ellie is safe.

But yeah, if I were Joel, I'd be thinking like, hey, I don't want Ellie to have to see this because like I don't look so hot right now. I don't want her to have this memory and have nightmares of her own and also just be hell bent on exacting vengeance. And also, he doesn't know for sure that Dina or Ellie is safe.

All he really knows is that these people are beating him to death and they've promised him that everyone else is OK. But can you take their word for that at this moment? So really, he dies not knowing what's going to happen to his adopted daughter and also this other sort of second adopted daughter who he's very fond of.

All he really knows is that these people are beating him to death and they've promised him that everyone else is OK. But can you take their word for that at this moment? So really, he dies not knowing what's going to happen to his adopted daughter and also this other sort of second adopted daughter who he's very fond of.

All he really knows is that these people are beating him to death and they've promised him that everyone else is OK. But can you take their word for that at this moment? So really, he dies not knowing what's going to happen to his adopted daughter and also this other sort of second adopted daughter who he's very fond of.

So I'm not sure that that's that much more comforting for me to know that he was aware that she was there. But OK, if that brings you comfort, happy to hear it. we get a different death blow. So they did spare us the squelch that we get when the bat finally makes its final blow on Joel's skull. And you definitely see some pulping happen in the game.

So I'm not sure that that's that much more comforting for me to know that he was aware that she was there. But OK, if that brings you comfort, happy to hear it. we get a different death blow. So they did spare us the squelch that we get when the bat finally makes its final blow on Joel's skull. And you definitely see some pulping happen in the game.

So I'm not sure that that's that much more comforting for me to know that he was aware that she was there. But OK, if that brings you comfort, happy to hear it. we get a different death blow. So they did spare us the squelch that we get when the bat finally makes its final blow on Joel's skull. And you definitely see some pulping happen in the game.

It's not quite as explicit as Glenn in The Walking Dead, but you see that skull being bashed in. And here you don't see this. It's a little more... I don't want to say humane. It's far from that. But it's at least a little less bloody. It's just like drive a spike into the base of his brain, basically. I think there are two advantages of this.

It's not quite as explicit as Glenn in The Walking Dead, but you see that skull being bashed in. And here you don't see this. It's a little more... I don't want to say humane. It's far from that. But it's at least a little less bloody. It's just like drive a spike into the base of his brain, basically. I think there are two advantages of this.

It's not quite as explicit as Glenn in The Walking Dead, but you see that skull being bashed in. And here you don't see this. It's a little more... I don't want to say humane. It's far from that. But it's at least a little less bloody. It's just like drive a spike into the base of his brain, basically. I think there are two advantages of this.

A, practical effects wise, it's probably a little more manageable not to have to deconstruct Pedro Pascal's face on screen. And also, as we were saying, like they didn't really want to rub people's nose. noses in the violence and kind of glorify the violence. And so, OK, it's over. You're just driving a spike into him. You know, maybe he doesn't feel that at that point.

A, practical effects wise, it's probably a little more manageable not to have to deconstruct Pedro Pascal's face on screen. And also, as we were saying, like they didn't really want to rub people's nose. noses in the violence and kind of glorify the violence. And so, OK, it's over. You're just driving a spike into him. You know, maybe he doesn't feel that at that point.

A, practical effects wise, it's probably a little more manageable not to have to deconstruct Pedro Pascal's face on screen. And also, as we were saying, like they didn't really want to rub people's nose. noses in the violence and kind of glorify the violence. And so, OK, it's over. You're just driving a spike into him. You know, maybe he doesn't feel that at that point.

Also, I think it just makes it more conclusive. Because unless you were actually going to bash his brain in and see his brain splattering all over the room, you know, we're so conditioned by TV to think, oh, maybe he survived somehow. And they make very clear that he did not hear both with the spike and also with his body in the body bag being dragged along behind the horse. Yeah, yeah.

Also, I think it just makes it more conclusive. Because unless you were actually going to bash his brain in and see his brain splattering all over the room, you know, we're so conditioned by TV to think, oh, maybe he survived somehow. And they make very clear that he did not hear both with the spike and also with his body in the body bag being dragged along behind the horse. Yeah, yeah.

Also, I think it just makes it more conclusive. Because unless you were actually going to bash his brain in and see his brain splattering all over the room, you know, we're so conditioned by TV to think, oh, maybe he survived somehow. And they make very clear that he did not hear both with the spike and also with his body in the body bag being dragged along behind the horse. Yeah, yeah.

which is not something that's in the game either. So they're taking away any sort of debate about was this some sort of cliffhanger? Like, are they going to say, is this going to be a Glenn the other time that Glenn seemed to die and then didn't actually and somehow escaped? No, clearly Joel is dead here. And it's a little less like grossly violent than it was in the game.