Ben Lindbergh

Tantrums and

Yes, Fern has to braid her hair.

She's obsessed with grimoires.

She falls for every mimic, every fake treasure chest, even though she has been doing this forever.

So there's this childlike, innocent aspect to her, even though she is this age-old being who has seen everything.

No, it's all just sort of shown and not told, I would say.

Yes, I think this is going to be, now that I've caught up to Fririn, this will be my watch.

I just started it in preparation for this pod, and I'm already pretty invested.

So this is exciting.

And I'd also say that it's a real relief to see long seasons again.

You talked about Freeran being a great binge, and it's true.

I started watching it with my wife, who also loves it.

And by the way, this is not a, like, get past the first seven episodes and then it gets good.

No, like, you'll get hooked from the beginning in either of these shows that we're talking about.

But we were instantly into Freeran.

And then we look and we got 28 episodes in the first season.

Wow.

Hell yes.

I'm so used to every season of TV now being eight episodes or six episodes or whatever it is, and it ends and it feels like it's just getting started.

Here, you can actually settle in and you can spend some time.