Ben Lindbergh

I go, why?

Because the first one went through the fucking roof.

I go, really?

Cool.

Do the second one.

And then a year later, the third, fourth, and now it's like a whole brand.

I didn't see that coming.

So clearly not a Fallout player himself, but he does appreciate it.

the role he has played in the series.

And hopefully he made more than 40 bucks in a sandwich to play this part on screen.

Maybe they made up for it here, I would hope.

I want to ask you a little bit about what we know and don't know about super mutants in the Fallout lore, but I guess we can just...

close the loop here and go through this scene because the super mutant drags the ghoul away to an encampment, which is festooned with gore bags from Fallout 3.

And we don't see his face for a while.

You can kind of tell it's Perlman because of how he sounds, but you don't see his face until the end of their interaction.

The character design, pretty menacing, reminded me actually of the ghost of Christmas yet to come from the Muppet Christmas Carol, which frightened me as a kid.

Great movie, but that ghost specifically left an impression on my mind and, you know, sort of similar because it's just this massive, hulking, shrouded figure and you don't see their face, but...

We learned that it is the Pearl Mutants, let's call him.

He hauls the ghoul up into his own kind of quasi-crucifixion pose, much like Lucy in the Legion camp a while ago.

Kind of looked like Vecna in the Abyss.