Ben McKenzie

You know, they crushed us.

Like, crushed us every year.

But he really earned it.

I think he started out as, like, third string...

QB, because again, not the biggest guy.

And height's important in your quarterback.

You want to be able to see over everything.

Yeah, he literally probably could not see over those linemen and was having to like drop a ball 30 yards down the field.

How do you even do that?

Spooky.

Spooky.

You say that, and it sounds, to me anyway, it's always kind of weird, like I was expected to go there, which was not the vibe.

I was basically not that focused in high school on grades.

I went to a regular public high school, Austin, Texas, which was wonderful, but I was playing football and...

drinking and chasing girls and i was just not focused on the academic side of things were you having the friday night's life experience that i watched on tv like you're on the football team in texas yeah girls love you there was a little bit of that i mean not riggins level right none of us looked like uh tim riggins yeah tim riggins or any of those guys and it was austin you're not like odessa permian that's all there is but yeah no it's intense texas high school football people show up you know friday night lights people show up on a friday

It's like your first taste of being famous.

Yeah, a little bit.

Also your first taste of like what happens when you fail publicly.

Because I remember we played Westlake, right?

Drew's team.