Ben McKenzie

Exactly.

So as to whether I felt like things were going to change, you know, I can't remember what I felt at the time.

It felt good to clear the air.

It felt necessary.

I went hard, as you showed in the clips.

I did not mess around.

I remember asking my wife, like, do I use Biggest Ponzi Scheme in history?

Is that, like, too simplistic?

She's like, no, you have to say that because that's how—

People understand these things popularly.

You can be nuanced in a 300-page book, but in five minutes on Capitol Hill and in a specific clip that you're going to be clipped for, you need to be as direct and as hard-hitting as possible.

And so, you know, I wrote my remarks.

And, you know, the good part about being an actor and a writer is you specialize in communications.

And I knew, I think I knew how to hit my marks.

And what's so fascinating about actually testifying is how similar to showbiz it was.

Mm-hmm.

It was like you're up there, you're giving your speech, you're on camera, but off camera you're seeing people milling about and the Republicans only come in to – the hearing was two cryptoskeptics, me and this wonderful professor of law at American University, Hillary Allen –

And a couple of pro-crypto people, including Kevin O'Leary.

Yeah.

Yeah.