Ben Meiselas

By and large, even though Donald Trump claims 34 ships have been able to pass through the Strait of Hormuz, loaded with all of this liquid gold and all this oil, it's just not true.

There's been a few ships that have passed through the Strait of Hormuz, and they basically still...

are able to get past this blockade, even though you have CENTCOM saying no ships have been able to break the blockade.

It's impenetrable, the blockade.

Well, I mean, there's a ship called the Rich Starry that got through the Strait of Hormuz.

There's limited traffic.

But just the very idea that Donald Trump's plan is, how do we open up the Strait of Hormuz?

Let's close it even more.

Let's do a blockade of Iran's control of the Strait of Hormuz.

That will show them

What kind of plan is that?

And also, I think it's clear that Donald Trump realizes how the war is so harmful to the economy, how it harms the markets.

And this is why Donald Trump always chickens out, as they say.

And he talks a big game, the bluster, the bravado.

We're going to obliterate you.

We're going to destroy you.

And then he extends his deadlines, extends his deadlines.

And then he basically agrees to most of Iran's terms, recognizing Iran as not just a regional power, but a world power.

So we are going to talk more about that in this episode, because I think it's important to fully contextualize what's happened.

Iran hasn't been obliterated.