Ben Meiselas

You may have to go to a food clinic in order to get food.

You don't have medical services.

So talk about that.

So Congressman, where do you think this goes next?

What happens after, you know, I mean, there doesn't seem to be an end in sight for this government shutdown, given...

the Mag and Mike position, the Trump position, do not talk, do not have discussions.

And I saw Congresswoman McClain, after Mag and Mike goes, Congresswoman McClain, she does a thing where she just like kind of yells, where she like holds up, she goes, just sign the damn thing, just sign it.

And it's like, that's not how you actually deal with negotiations.

So like, what happens next?

And then finally, I want to talk about this while I've got you on, because your career before getting into politics, running a successful business, having lots of employees and predictability, certainty, direction, it seems everything that we don't see right now with this current administration and

not just mixed messages they're sending to the business community but in many cases outright hostility and frankly you know is the government going to say we want to take over your business the way they have before and implemented you know those types of controls on certain businesses

And it just seems every day you could wake up and Donald Trump could make a social media post about China one day, and then the markets have a strong reaction.

And then the next day he says, actually, we're friends.

Then it has another reaction.

Some people in that period of time are just getting completely wiped out as well, though, before he sends his next social media post.

And I just wonder kind of your reaction, you know, wearing both your political hat and business hat at just what you're seeing every day here, because these Republicans like to brand themselves as, you know, being, you know, oh, we're the ones who know about business.

But like all of their actions to me seem as reckless as can be from a business and political perspective.

Appreciate you coming on, Congressman Beyer.

We'll keep on following your work on committees, your floor speeches, and we hope you come back soon.

Oh, absolutely.