Ben Myselish

And then he goes on to attack the Pope.

You know, he's telling on himself there, Donald Trump is.

it's it's absolutely it it's beyond ridiculous and just one quick side note pope leo man every time i see a clip of him and just remember that he's from chicago american pope i'm just like let's go that is that's wild look religion has a major potency

intertwined with it.

People who are religious feel very strongly often about their religion.

And so if you can utilize religion as a tool to divide or use the symbols of religion

in order to manipulate.

It's one of the characteristics of Donald Trump to lure people in and then use things that make people comfortable and make people invested and then manipulate it.

And that's what charlatans do.

That's what Donald Trump deserves.

The symbolism of the United States, the flag, patriotism, our history, these symbols, Donald Trump as a fraud,

is able to take these symbols that are very meaningful to people here you know in this country and manipulate him for his own gain to divide and to cause major issues this is what we see as a pattern over and over again i mean one of the things that donald trump does also we'll talk about this later in the show using the very idea of a negotiation

as a tool of chicanery, trickery, fraud, domination.

Oftentimes when people engage in a negotiation, most frequently it's not an exercise of domination, it is how can we reach an agreement and reach a deal.

Donald Trump's view of a negotiation is to lure people in, usually under fraudulent pretext, and then when they are vulnerable, because they believe they're in a deal-making posture, you basically sucker punch them.

Donald Trump never was a deal-maker, in my opinion.

He's always been a destroyer and he's used things like implied covenants of good faith and fair dealing, norms and traditions to harm people when people are following what they believe are basic codes of morality, decency,

or good faith when it comes to agreements, contracts, and general understandings.

I think it's an important point that you also emphasize there, Jordi, is that this is not a religious discussion.

As I noted before, this isn't about this religion or that religion.