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Ben (narrator/author of the LessWrong post)

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LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

Also includes the part in the water.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

That is one position.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

But alternative theories exist.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

A similar, competing theory claims claims that Abraham's momentum is the momentum fully in electromagnetic fields, and that's some other expression.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

Here's a formula.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

The direct average of Minkowski and Abraham gives the total momentum, including that in the material response.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

What is momentum anyway?

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

I first encountered the Abraham-Minkowski controversy when I was trying to answer a question about recoil.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

I was considering an idealized thought experiment and to know if it would work I needed to know how recoil worked as light changes medium.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

When light goes into or out of some piece of glass, which way does the glass get shoved by the recoil, and by how much?

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

This is a basic Newtonian problem, but to answer it one needs to know what to use for the momentum of the light when it is in glass.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

Another context in which people worry about momentum is the Heisenberg uncertainty principle.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

You can't know the location and momentum of a photon at the same time, and the more you know one, the less you can know the other.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

The Abraham momentum feels more like it's trying to work with Newton, while Minkowski is Heisenberg's friend.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

This is basically the short version of the paper by Stephen Barnett, where it is argued that the Abraham momentum is the answer to the question what do I put in Newton's second law to calculate recoil, and the Minkowski one answers the question I am doing Heisenberg uncertainty for a photon in glass.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

What do I use?

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

While I am not convinced by the argument, I think it is getting one thing importantly right, and that is that it asks people to think about what they want to use the number, or vector, they are calculating for.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

A question of the type what is x becomes increasingly difficult to answer as more and more emphasis is put on this.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

What is the momentum?

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

What asterisk is asterisk the momentum?