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Ben (narrator/author of the LessWrong post)

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LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

Going back to our runner example, the slight shift of the block from left to right can be thought of as the splash as the runner leaves the water.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

There's an image here.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

Putting the water center of mass slightly to the right.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

Although this may be taking the analogy too far.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

In contrast, Minkowski's momentum would have us believe the glass block gets moved in the opposite direction, towards the light source.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

So it is not only failing to quantitatively satisfy the principle that centre of mass transport should be conserved in an isolated system, but is making a qualitatively opposite prediction that the glass moves in the opposite direction.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

Note, however, that the principle being broken, uniform motion of center of mass, is not at all one of the big principles of physics, especially not with the extra step of converting the photon energy to mass.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

I had not previously heard of the principle, and don't think it is anywhere near the weight class of things like momentum conservation.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

A variation on this experiment has been done.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

An optic fiber has a high-power flash of laser light exit from the end facet.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

As the laser flash leaves the glass into air, its momentum increases, according to Abraham, which requires a reaction force against the fiber itself, propelling it backwards.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

So that when the light leaves the fiber springs back our video.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

Link in text the spring back is evidence of the Abraham version of the momentum.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

One problem with this experiment is that light, by any definition, has very little momentum, so they had to put fairly high powers through a very small fiber.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

This means that other things, thermal expansion, static electricity etc., are pushing on the fiber as well, and we need to put some trust in estimates of how strong these competing effects are relative to the direct change in the light momentum.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

Also, if Minkowski was right the fiber would get tugged down, which, given some elasticity in the fiber, might look somewhat similar to it springing back.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

A clean-cut proof of Minkowski's result.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

There is a nice, simple, way of showing that Minkowski's result must be right.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

Get a mirror, put it in a liquid.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

Bounce a beam of light off the mirror and measure the radiation pressure on said mirror as the light bounces off.