Ben Orlando

Like most of my friends in high school played, they were on the baseball team and like I made other friends, uh, played on the tennis team, but like, yeah, what would that have been like?

You know, cause you're missing out because of that on, on incredible bonding experiences in baseball, you know, cause it's, it's a sport that's so different from other sports, but it's,

It's so sad that that's the reality still.

So yeah, that was the case for me.

I think it was all of that and I had no idea.

you know, as a 12 year old, as a 13 year old, what was going on, how I could express that.

Like that's, that's also the sad case.

Like for most kids, they don't even really understand what's happening.

They just know that, okay, I don't like this.

Like, I really don't like this.

And so the only thing I can do is try to, try to quit, try to get away from it.

Right.

Well, I mean, it's really interesting when you're saying that, like, you don't get the credit, but if you're tuned in, like you can recognize the credit.

Like, as you're saying, if your son opens up to you, that lets you know, Hey, I'm doing a good job.

Right.

Like he's opening up, he's sharing like, wow, I'm really, I'm really helping him.

Like, cause those are, those are tools that are so important and they don't get taught in school.

but they're so important in every aspect of life.

Yeah.

So, so, so it's, it's right there for you, right?