Ben Owen

Now, it's not going to surprise anybody listening to this to hear that a lot of drug dealers make good entrepreneurs, all right? Obviously, they're businessmen.

We've been able to take that approach with some of them, you know, demonstrate some of my business success and prowess over the years and say, look, if you will consider a different way of life and put this shit down, I'm going to mentor you. I'm going to help you. That's worked sometimes. Sometimes they don't give a shit.

We've been able to take that approach with some of them, you know, demonstrate some of my business success and prowess over the years and say, look, if you will consider a different way of life and put this shit down, I'm going to mentor you. I'm going to help you. That's worked sometimes. Sometimes they don't give a shit.

We've been able to take that approach with some of them, you know, demonstrate some of my business success and prowess over the years and say, look, if you will consider a different way of life and put this shit down, I'm going to mentor you. I'm going to help you. That's worked sometimes. Sometimes they don't give a shit.

They're going to keep living the life they're living, and you've got to find a different way to reach them. Well, if you figure out that that dope boy's mom has been out there on the hoe track for the last 30 years selling her body or his sister or his baby mama, and you go get to them, you get that one some help, man, you've got a friend for life in that dope boy.

They're going to keep living the life they're living, and you've got to find a different way to reach them. Well, if you figure out that that dope boy's mom has been out there on the hoe track for the last 30 years selling her body or his sister or his baby mama, and you go get to them, you get that one some help, man, you've got a friend for life in that dope boy.

They're going to keep living the life they're living, and you've got to find a different way to reach them. Well, if you figure out that that dope boy's mom has been out there on the hoe track for the last 30 years selling her body or his sister or his baby mama, and you go get to them, you get that one some help, man, you've got a friend for life in that dope boy.

He may not stop selling dope, but that's the only way he knows how to make a living. or if that's the way he enjoys making a living, but you can reach him, you can make some level of impact, you could start going after their customer base. And we did that successfully on one trap house. Actually, it took multiple methods on this one, the one on Woodward, the one where I should have died.

He may not stop selling dope, but that's the only way he knows how to make a living. or if that's the way he enjoys making a living, but you can reach him, you can make some level of impact, you could start going after their customer base. And we did that successfully on one trap house. Actually, it took multiple methods on this one, the one on Woodward, the one where I should have died.

He may not stop selling dope, but that's the only way he knows how to make a living. or if that's the way he enjoys making a living, but you can reach him, you can make some level of impact, you could start going after their customer base. And we did that successfully on one trap house. Actually, it took multiple methods on this one, the one on Woodward, the one where I should have died.

That's how we shut that house down. You know, we put one of the dope boys through CDL school. He went back to selling dope. We helped him open up a car detailing business. went back to selling dope, we ended up getting help for several people that he was real close to and he loved, like family. Even though he was selling them what they were killing themselves with, he loved them.

That's how we shut that house down. You know, we put one of the dope boys through CDL school. He went back to selling dope. We helped him open up a car detailing business. went back to selling dope, we ended up getting help for several people that he was real close to and he loved, like family. Even though he was selling them what they were killing themselves with, he loved them.

That's how we shut that house down. You know, we put one of the dope boys through CDL school. He went back to selling dope. We helped him open up a car detailing business. went back to selling dope, we ended up getting help for several people that he was real close to and he loved, like family. Even though he was selling them what they were killing themselves with, he loved them.

We got them help and that caught his attention. And so the totality of those opened him up to a conversation and he agreed to shut the trap down.

We got them help and that caught his attention. And so the totality of those opened him up to a conversation and he agreed to shut the trap down.

We got them help and that caught his attention. And so the totality of those opened him up to a conversation and he agreed to shut the trap down.

So it's going to depend on whether or not we have history with that dough boy. And if I don't, I've got to become known to them.

So it's going to depend on whether or not we have history with that dough boy. And if I don't, I've got to become known to them.

So it's going to depend on whether or not we have history with that dough boy. And if I don't, I've got to become known to them.

Murder, overdose. One natural, but a lot of them died. But the majority of them are still the same people. It's like we never left. They're still there doing exactly what they were doing the day I hit rock bottom in that empty lot. And they don't want to be. They don't. They don't know anything else. They were raised there. They were taught if you need something, you get it off the block.