Ben Owen

When? When?

Yeah, so there's a part. What was that like? I remember rebuilding bonds, dude. Kids are resilient. How old are your kids at this point? Oh, they were, I want to say 9, 10. Let's see. This would have been December 2014. So Jacob would have been 9. Jackson would have been 10. Lily and the twins were 3, 3, and 4. Almost 4, 4, and 5.

Yeah, so there's a part. What was that like? I remember rebuilding bonds, dude. Kids are resilient. How old are your kids at this point? Oh, they were, I want to say 9, 10. Let's see. This would have been December 2014. So Jacob would have been 9. Jackson would have been 10. Lily and the twins were 3, 3, and 4. Almost 4, 4, and 5.

Yeah, so there's a part. What was that like? I remember rebuilding bonds, dude. Kids are resilient. How old are your kids at this point? Oh, they were, I want to say 9, 10. Let's see. This would have been December 2014. So Jacob would have been 9. Jackson would have been 10. Lily and the twins were 3, 3, and 4. Almost 4, 4, and 5.

Um, we just kind of picked up right back where left off, you know, watching nature shows together, going hiking. Uh, there's a IH park.

Um, we just kind of picked up right back where left off, you know, watching nature shows together, going hiking. Uh, there's a IH park.

Um, we just kind of picked up right back where left off, you know, watching nature shows together, going hiking. Uh, there's a IH park.

It was dicey for a few days. That's it. That was it. Because when I was living in that extended stay, Aaron could tell that something had changed in me, and that I was trying to stay clean, and the kids came and stayed with me some of that extended stay. So we had gotten most of the real rough part out of the way. I've always been very close to my kids, so even though— What was the rough part?

It was dicey for a few days. That's it. That was it. Because when I was living in that extended stay, Aaron could tell that something had changed in me, and that I was trying to stay clean, and the kids came and stayed with me some of that extended stay. So we had gotten most of the real rough part out of the way. I've always been very close to my kids, so even though— What was the rough part?

It was dicey for a few days. That's it. That was it. Because when I was living in that extended stay, Aaron could tell that something had changed in me, and that I was trying to stay clean, and the kids came and stayed with me some of that extended stay. So we had gotten most of the real rough part out of the way. I've always been very close to my kids, so even though— What was the rough part?

Just the uncomfortability, like them staying with me and crying at bedtime, wanting to go see Mommy, you know. I bet they had a lot of questions. They really didn't. They really didn't. They didn't want to know why you were in there? And the extended stay?

Just the uncomfortability, like them staying with me and crying at bedtime, wanting to go see Mommy, you know. I bet they had a lot of questions. They really didn't. They really didn't. They didn't want to know why you were in there? And the extended stay?

Just the uncomfortability, like them staying with me and crying at bedtime, wanting to go see Mommy, you know. I bet they had a lot of questions. They really didn't. They really didn't. They didn't want to know why you were in there? And the extended stay?

Well, they did, and that was the rough part, was explaining to them, Mom and Dad are getting divorced. And that was just the hardest thing I've ever had to tell my kids.

Well, they did, and that was the rough part, was explaining to them, Mom and Dad are getting divorced. And that was just the hardest thing I've ever had to tell my kids.

Well, they did, and that was the rough part, was explaining to them, Mom and Dad are getting divorced. And that was just the hardest thing I've ever had to tell my kids.

I was addicted to heroin for 10 months before the arrest. I was home for most of that. I would make my runs to the dope track, get my dope. But then you were living at the trap houses. So that wasn't 10 months. That was four months I was out there, this run in the traps. And so I don't really know how to explain it. We just kind of picked right up where we left off. It was strange.

I was addicted to heroin for 10 months before the arrest. I was home for most of that. I would make my runs to the dope track, get my dope. But then you were living at the trap houses. So that wasn't 10 months. That was four months I was out there, this run in the traps. And so I don't really know how to explain it. We just kind of picked right up where we left off. It was strange.

I was addicted to heroin for 10 months before the arrest. I was home for most of that. I would make my runs to the dope track, get my dope. But then you were living at the trap houses. So that wasn't 10 months. That was four months I was out there, this run in the traps. And so I don't really know how to explain it. We just kind of picked right up where we left off. It was strange.

How did you tell your kids you're getting divorced? I didn't. Aaron didn't. And then Christmas Eve, we told them, never mind, we're not. Like, Merry Christmas. And, you know, we had a real happy Christmas. Everything was great. But then New Year's Eve came, and I found that out about the business. And it was just the totality. It was too much.