Ben Owen
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But this is like months went in that gap. So then, you know, I told Erin, like, let's go ahead and do this divorce. I'm moving on, which is what she had told me to do to begin with. And so she was like, OK, neither of us wanted it, but it's what needs to happen, that kind of thing. And, um, Jess and I pretty much moved into Thomas's house and started building the life together.
But this is like months went in that gap. So then, you know, I told Erin, like, let's go ahead and do this divorce. I'm moving on, which is what she had told me to do to begin with. And so she was like, OK, neither of us wanted it, but it's what needs to happen, that kind of thing. And, um, Jess and I pretty much moved into Thomas's house and started building the life together.
Uh, like we were going to start brush fire and black rifle and retec in a garage behind his house. We're going to start the businesses back over. And we did. We were like, we actually did. And we're running an econ business out of his garage. July, I think comes around and, you know, Jess had met all the kids at this point. Um, all the kids love her. Uh, her daughter loved me. Um,
Uh, like we were going to start brush fire and black rifle and retec in a garage behind his house. We're going to start the businesses back over. And we did. We were like, we actually did. And we're running an econ business out of his garage. July, I think comes around and, you know, Jess had met all the kids at this point. Um, all the kids love her. Uh, her daughter loved me. Um,
Uh, like we were going to start brush fire and black rifle and retec in a garage behind his house. We're going to start the businesses back over. And we did. We were like, we actually did. And we're running an econ business out of his garage. July, I think comes around and, you know, Jess had met all the kids at this point. Um, all the kids love her. Uh, her daughter loved me. Um,
Now, we haven't told Aaron that we're an item. And so that was a big landmine we were waiting on. And it ended about like you can imagine it would.
Now, we haven't told Aaron that we're an item. And so that was a big landmine we were waiting on. And it ended about like you can imagine it would.
Now, we haven't told Aaron that we're an item. And so that was a big landmine we were waiting on. And it ended about like you can imagine it would.
Okay. All right. So I'm just going to preface that. All right. We've come a long way since then. I've grown a lot as a human being. I was still sleeping with Aaron. And so when she found out I was sleeping with Jess, she sat Jess down and said, hey, just so you're aware, I'm still sleeping with him too. And Jess acted like she didn't care. Yeah. But in reality, it ripped her guts out.
Okay. All right. So I'm just going to preface that. All right. We've come a long way since then. I've grown a lot as a human being. I was still sleeping with Aaron. And so when she found out I was sleeping with Jess, she sat Jess down and said, hey, just so you're aware, I'm still sleeping with him too. And Jess acted like she didn't care. Yeah. But in reality, it ripped her guts out.
Okay. All right. So I'm just going to preface that. All right. We've come a long way since then. I've grown a lot as a human being. I was still sleeping with Aaron. And so when she found out I was sleeping with Jess, she sat Jess down and said, hey, just so you're aware, I'm still sleeping with him too. And Jess acted like she didn't care. Yeah. But in reality, it ripped her guts out.
right before the turning point she had mentioned you woke up in a with blood everywhere so what was that well to this day we don't know um i woke up in the empty lot next to 1428 woodward street which is a very significant address that's the house that she was describing it's full of bullet holes where you know we've had friends die in that house friend shot in that house uh I had disappeared.
right before the turning point she had mentioned you woke up in a with blood everywhere so what was that well to this day we don't know um i woke up in the empty lot next to 1428 woodward street which is a very significant address that's the house that she was describing it's full of bullet holes where you know we've had friends die in that house friend shot in that house uh I had disappeared.
right before the turning point she had mentioned you woke up in a with blood everywhere so what was that well to this day we don't know um i woke up in the empty lot next to 1428 woodward street which is a very significant address that's the house that she was describing it's full of bullet holes where you know we've had friends die in that house friend shot in that house uh I had disappeared.
I went into a blackout drunk. I wanted to get out of that life very bad, and I knew if I kept going back to her dad's where I had a soft place to land, I was not going to. And so I decided to just go all out and either die or hit rock bottom. But it was going to happen that week, one or the other.
I went into a blackout drunk. I wanted to get out of that life very bad, and I knew if I kept going back to her dad's where I had a soft place to land, I was not going to. And so I decided to just go all out and either die or hit rock bottom. But it was going to happen that week, one or the other.
I went into a blackout drunk. I wanted to get out of that life very bad, and I knew if I kept going back to her dad's where I had a soft place to land, I was not going to. And so I decided to just go all out and either die or hit rock bottom. But it was going to happen that week, one or the other.
I mean, I got nose to nose with a real young gangster disciple who had a pistol to my gut and told him to pull the trigger. I mean, I was begging somebody to kill me. And that was on Hemlock Street, so two blocks over from Woodward. And that was the last thing I remember before waking up the 26th of May, 2019. And that empty lot just covered head to toe in blood.
I mean, I got nose to nose with a real young gangster disciple who had a pistol to my gut and told him to pull the trigger. I mean, I was begging somebody to kill me. And that was on Hemlock Street, so two blocks over from Woodward. And that was the last thing I remember before waking up the 26th of May, 2019. And that empty lot just covered head to toe in blood.
I mean, I got nose to nose with a real young gangster disciple who had a pistol to my gut and told him to pull the trigger. I mean, I was begging somebody to kill me. And that was on Hemlock Street, so two blocks over from Woodward. And that was the last thing I remember before waking up the 26th of May, 2019. And that empty lot just covered head to toe in blood.