Ben Owen
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I'm on, like, 100 milligrams of Adderall a day. Like, I'm on all the dope. State Trooper saw how fucked up I was and was like, pretty sure you're taking some stuff you're not supposed to, but I'm not charging you, you know? And I was like, that's it. God just winked at me. I'm taking it. I'm taking it and I'm fixing my life. So I quit smoking cigarettes. I quit all the meds. And I got sober.
I decided to leave Pfizer because the drinking culture was too bad. And as good as I was doing there, I should be making a lot more money. And so I started looking into getting a job in medical device sales. And that ended up being exactly what I did. I got a job selling medical devices. I interviewed for several. One was in women's health space.
I decided to leave Pfizer because the drinking culture was too bad. And as good as I was doing there, I should be making a lot more money. And so I started looking into getting a job in medical device sales. And that ended up being exactly what I did. I got a job selling medical devices. I interviewed for several. One was in women's health space.
I decided to leave Pfizer because the drinking culture was too bad. And as good as I was doing there, I should be making a lot more money. And so I started looking into getting a job in medical device sales. And that ended up being exactly what I did. I got a job selling medical devices. I interviewed for several. One was in women's health space.
One was in trauma selling the exact plate that was in my leg. And then cardiac is where I found my passion. So not a cardiovascular surgeon, but I'm getting to sell cardiac devices in the cath lab to cardiologists and electrophysiologists. I'm getting to nerd out on all this cool stuff. And I was making money hand over fist. I think I made like 230 that year at 25, 26 years old.
One was in trauma selling the exact plate that was in my leg. And then cardiac is where I found my passion. So not a cardiovascular surgeon, but I'm getting to sell cardiac devices in the cath lab to cardiologists and electrophysiologists. I'm getting to nerd out on all this cool stuff. And I was making money hand over fist. I think I made like 230 that year at 25, 26 years old.
One was in trauma selling the exact plate that was in my leg. And then cardiac is where I found my passion. So not a cardiovascular surgeon, but I'm getting to sell cardiac devices in the cath lab to cardiologists and electrophysiologists. I'm getting to nerd out on all this cool stuff. And I was making money hand over fist. I think I made like 230 that year at 25, 26 years old.
Like I was doing really good. And then we had a company-wide meeting in Chicago. And I hadn't, like Pfizer does all these functions. It's impossible to not be around everybody being drunk when you work at a pharmaceutical company. Medical advice is a little different. Territories are much more spread out. And so I hadn't been exposed to that.
Like I was doing really good. And then we had a company-wide meeting in Chicago. And I hadn't, like Pfizer does all these functions. It's impossible to not be around everybody being drunk when you work at a pharmaceutical company. Medical advice is a little different. Territories are much more spread out. And so I hadn't been exposed to that.
Like I was doing really good. And then we had a company-wide meeting in Chicago. And I hadn't, like Pfizer does all these functions. It's impossible to not be around everybody being drunk when you work at a pharmaceutical company. Medical advice is a little different. Territories are much more spread out. And so I hadn't been exposed to that.
We had the meeting in Chicago and I realized I'm in the same fucking environment I was at Pfizer. Except it's even worse. They were like harassing me for not drinking. And I ended up getting into it with our VP of sales, pretty big, pretty bad. And I was like, I can't, I can't stay here.
We had the meeting in Chicago and I realized I'm in the same fucking environment I was at Pfizer. Except it's even worse. They were like harassing me for not drinking. And I ended up getting into it with our VP of sales, pretty big, pretty bad. And I was like, I can't, I can't stay here.
We had the meeting in Chicago and I realized I'm in the same fucking environment I was at Pfizer. Except it's even worse. They were like harassing me for not drinking. And I ended up getting into it with our VP of sales, pretty big, pretty bad. And I was like, I can't, I can't stay here.
And that was just as well because they started telling us to commit Medicare fraud, change billing codes so they would cover our devices and some other stuff that I knew was extremely illegal. I asked a question, and they terminated me, which was fine because I wanted that to happen anyway.
And that was just as well because they started telling us to commit Medicare fraud, change billing codes so they would cover our devices and some other stuff that I knew was extremely illegal. I asked a question, and they terminated me, which was fine because I wanted that to happen anyway.
And that was just as well because they started telling us to commit Medicare fraud, change billing codes so they would cover our devices and some other stuff that I knew was extremely illegal. I asked a question, and they terminated me, which was fine because I wanted that to happen anyway.
Now, a few years later, they ended up getting fined, I think, $21 million by the Office of the Inspector General for exactly what I asked a question about. So, whatever. What was the question?
Now, a few years later, they ended up getting fined, I think, $21 million by the Office of the Inspector General for exactly what I asked a question about. So, whatever. What was the question?
Now, a few years later, they ended up getting fined, I think, $21 million by the Office of the Inspector General for exactly what I asked a question about. So, whatever. What was the question?
is it not Medicare fraud to change this diagnosis from palpitations to conduction delay unspecified, knowing full well that, yes, they mean the same thing, but Medicare will only pay for conduction delay unspecified, not palpitations. And I sent that in an email with those exact words. They knew I was firing shots at them.