Ben Port (Ben Skull)

Not to, you know, they don't make a market in it.

They just literally, you say you got a million shares there, they're just going to sell your shares for you.

Right, but where do they share it?

No, no, no.

So that's where the investor relations comes in and the marketing comes in.

Where you're shooting off the faxes.

I'm shooting off the faxes, email blasts, and that's bringing investors in.

These guys are selling their stock at the same time.

Yeah, so a lot of people lost money, but obviously, you know, the stock goes up 50% that day, 80%.

People are in and out of it, too.

You know, you're kind of day trading it as well.

And then you get the market makers that kind of play the games on the market as well.

So he was more on the brokerage side of the business.

Um, and I was more on the investor relations and marketing side.

And so what I built was a, I, you know, a team, I had a

you know, broker that was like one of my best friends.

He went to jail for like five years.

And, um, and then we'd have marketing guys and we had a whole team of people.

Um, so what we, what ended up happening was all these brokerage firms would get shut down by the sec.

So my guys moved offshore and then, you know, next thing I know we had brokerage firms in the Bahamas, Panama, uh,