Ben Rhodes

So it's not going well for Rick other than the Trump Kennedy Center renovation here.

Eamon, my question to you, did you ever cross paths with Grinnell?

And are you feeling sorry for him?

Well, you know, he is a deep, longstanding patron of the arts.

So maybe, you know, he'll carry out his passions there.

But it's not always nice to see that there is, you know, accountability that circles back to some of these people.

Look, Eamon, I want to thank you so much for, you know, walking through all this, for co-hosting today.

Again, people can watch you on MS where you host the weekend primetime, which airs Saturdays and Sundays at 6 Eastern.

Also, maybe...

Some of the content from Crooked will make its way on MS Now.

Absolutely.

Is there anything else you're up to, anywhere else people can follow you that we should be looking for?

Yeah, no show up everywhere.

Well, look, thank you for showing up here.

We really appreciate it.

And we will see you all next week.

Tommy will be back.

Thanks very much.

See you.

The director of national intelligence,