Ben Rhodes
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It's not just a control.
Like, he clearly wants to conquer Greenland.
Yeah, big time.
And we've been through those reasons.
But the other thing is it also can't be separated from where we're one year into the Trump administration.
He just kidnapped the president of Venezuela, whatever you think about that guy, right?
He's just invaded Minneapolis.
He's just tried to, like, arrest the head of the Federal Reserve.
Like, this guy is out of control, right?
So to pivot to the leaders here and the people at Davos,
You know, Carney gets up there and he says, well, you know, it looks like the rules-based order is ending.
The music has stopped.
It doesn't exist anymore.
Trump's reelection was the end of that.
Like, these guys, and they're almost all guys, have been living through this year where they've basically mimicked all the tactics of all the capitulators, and we've talked about this, the law firms, the universities.
Like, if we can just kiss his ass hard enough or flatter him hard enough or the British give him like a...