Ben Rhodes
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And I think you're kind of describing this moment where the balance is really tipped in this kind of strongman direction.
Museveni, Kagame in Rwanda, you know, Ruto in Kenya.
But we go to Cameroon.
But frankly, we go to Iran.
We go to the United States.
We go to Russia.
This is not just limited Africa.
But it does feel like...
at some point, something has to give here.
You know, like these people are not going to live forever.
Gen Z is growing.
So it's something to watch how long this dynamic can hold.
Well, Yusra, really appreciate you coming off such fresh reporting.
We'll have to have you back at some point.
There's Somaliland, there's Sudan, there's so many things happening on the continent that bear attention.
But really thankful for you to give us this powerful glimpse into what's happened in Uganda.
So thanks for that and for your reporting.
Thanks to Emmanuel Krohn for the glasses.
So I bet he had... Yeah, he must have just had pink eye.
He had a minor eye procedure, they said.