Ben Rhodes

By the way, everybody should watch that speech.

By the way, everybody should watch that speech.

By the way, everybody should watch that speech.

Yeah, you know, loathe to recommend another podcast, it's not Dan Bongino, but the daily episode on this is really powerful. And, you know, you make a few important points. First is, you know, it's hard to, some countries won't take deportees back, right? So, you know, there are countries,

Yeah, you know, loathe to recommend another podcast, it's not Dan Bongino, but the daily episode on this is really powerful. And, you know, you make a few important points. First is, you know, it's hard to, some countries won't take deportees back, right? So, you know, there are countries,

Yeah, you know, loathe to recommend another podcast, it's not Dan Bongino, but the daily episode on this is really powerful. And, you know, you make a few important points. First is, you know, it's hard to, some countries won't take deportees back, right? So, you know, there are countries,

You know, like Nicaragua or other countries in Central America that that aren't exactly like lining up to to take back people who've been deported. But so powerful about that segment, though, it's people from China, people. This woman from Iran is a Christian, and that's why she doesn't go back. By the way, you know, what a bunch of where's Mike Pence?

You know, like Nicaragua or other countries in Central America that that aren't exactly like lining up to to take back people who've been deported. But so powerful about that segment, though, it's people from China, people. This woman from Iran is a Christian, and that's why she doesn't go back. By the way, you know, what a bunch of where's Mike Pence?

You know, like Nicaragua or other countries in Central America that that aren't exactly like lining up to to take back people who've been deported. But so powerful about that segment, though, it's people from China, people. This woman from Iran is a Christian, and that's why she doesn't go back. By the way, you know, what a bunch of where's Mike Pence?

Yeah, where's the evangelical Christians in the Republican Party that want to stand up for people like that? There's a human tragedy of just these people being deposited in the middle of nowhere in Panama. We talked on this podcast several times about the Tory government wanting this scheme to send people back to Rwanda. This is much, much, much worse.

Yeah, where's the evangelical Christians in the Republican Party that want to stand up for people like that? There's a human tragedy of just these people being deposited in the middle of nowhere in Panama. We talked on this podcast several times about the Tory government wanting this scheme to send people back to Rwanda. This is much, much, much worse.

Yeah, where's the evangelical Christians in the Republican Party that want to stand up for people like that? There's a human tragedy of just these people being deposited in the middle of nowhere in Panama. We talked on this podcast several times about the Tory government wanting this scheme to send people back to Rwanda. This is much, much, much worse.

Like, as grotesque as that Rwanda plan was, it was actually a plan. It was like, you know, sending them there. This seems like they're just dumping people off of planes in Panama, and Panama's so scared to say no because Trump might invade, take the Panama Canal back. But there's something more fundamental about this.

Like, as grotesque as that Rwanda plan was, it was actually a plan. It was like, you know, sending them there. This seems like they're just dumping people off of planes in Panama, and Panama's so scared to say no because Trump might invade, take the Panama Canal back. But there's something more fundamental about this.

Like, as grotesque as that Rwanda plan was, it was actually a plan. It was like, you know, sending them there. This seems like they're just dumping people off of planes in Panama, and Panama's so scared to say no because Trump might invade, take the Panama Canal back. But there's something more fundamental about this.

If you look at who these people are, this is not like people, you know, coming across the southern border. Some of these people are people who have very credible cases for political asylum. like a Iranian Christian who's worried that she's going to be killed or imprisoned for her religion.

If you look at who these people are, this is not like people, you know, coming across the southern border. Some of these people are people who have very credible cases for political asylum. like a Iranian Christian who's worried that she's going to be killed or imprisoned for her religion.

If you look at who these people are, this is not like people, you know, coming across the southern border. Some of these people are people who have very credible cases for political asylum. like a Iranian Christian who's worried that she's going to be killed or imprisoned for her religion.

Through all our ups and downs of immigration, one thing that's been pretty constant, the US has been a safe haven for people who have very credible fears of being killed or imprisoned for their political or religious beliefs. We are changing something fundamental about our identity as a country if those are the kinds of people that we're sending to the jungle in Panama.

Through all our ups and downs of immigration, one thing that's been pretty constant, the US has been a safe haven for people who have very credible fears of being killed or imprisoned for their political or religious beliefs. We are changing something fundamental about our identity as a country if those are the kinds of people that we're sending to the jungle in Panama.