Ben Rhodes

And not just war powers, though.

As diverse people as Tim Kaine, Chris Van Hollen, and AOC had different components where they're like, it's illegal, it's unnecessary, they lied about the reasons to do it, and it ignores the lessons of history.

of regime change wars in the Middle East.

So that's an objection on policy, process, history, all of it.

That's the kind of case you can make.

Jason Crow, I think, made a very powerful case as a veteran where he's like, not only is this not what the American people want, this doesn't lower prices, but time and again, working class people have been screwed because they have to foot the bill for these wars by fighting in them or paying the taxes for them.

You know, so there's that kind of populist message that is important.

It's not just like politics.

It's true.

You know, it is fundamentally true.

And so I think no defensiveness.

The process is one piece of a much bigger picture here as to why this is wrong.

And I think Democrats have to be willing to make that argument.

You know, it's interesting to me, Tommy.

that you mentioned that the polls fluctuate to 70 to 80% of Americans are opposed to this.

You also saw a public opinion poll for the first time the other day that more Americans sympathize with Palestinians than Israelis, and that is an overwhelming majority among Democrats.

And let's just name the fact that oftentimes the people who seem the most reluctant to oppose this war are those Democrats who are most supportive of Israel in Congress.

And so we should just not be afraid to talk about the fact that this is part of the dynamic here, because there's a very clear correlation between people who take AIPAC money and who have been supportive of Bibi Nenya in the past, who are going to either vote no on that resolution or have been pretty teepid about this.

And look, Donald Trump, you know,

People, including us, gave him credit for getting tough with Netanyahu sometimes.