Ben Rhodes

The best case scenario, clearly these talks are playing for time.

You get a deal.

I mean, Khamenei is 87 years old.

He's sick.

There's a sense that if he's

dies or you know that's going to happen relatively soon that there you could see this evolution of the the government the evolution of the regime in a different direction okay we're going to take a quick break but first subscribers are loving the new content that we're dropping for friends of the pod pod save america only friends a new episode dropped thursday with alex wagner and aaron ryan open tabs a behind the scenes newsletter from pod save america editor reed churlin

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