Ben Shapiro

So, first of all, we didn't see through it in 2008.

But second of all, they're going to have some help.

they're going to have some help.

They'll have some help, for example, from the new left, who we have been talking about.

The splinter faction of pseudo Republicans who fellow traveled with Donald Trump and now are abandoning Trump in favor of a new coalition with the Democrats.

These folks have the same philosophy.

These people have the same philosophy as Ben Rhodes.

They have the same philosophy as Zoran Mamdani on a wide variety of topics, including on radical Islam.

I mean, it's pretty astonishing what's happened to Tucker Carlson, just as an example of this.

Our friends on the new left or the woke right, as James Lindsay likes to call them.

Here's Tucker in 2017 versus Tucker now on Islam.

Things have changed just a little.

Things have changed.

But at some point, you have to say this really is a real problem and it's discrediting all of us.

And until we take it seriously, it's going to continue now.

We can debate the details here, but it's I think it's important to acknowledge a baseline, and that is that there have been an awful lot of attacks where actual people died in the United States and in Europe, committed by people saying really clearly we're acting in the name of Islam.

If you have a society in which people bow down before God five times a day, I'm not against that.

And that was Tucker Carlson in 2016, 2017 versus Tucker Carlson now.

I mean, now Tucker is going so far that because he thinks that the entire world is controlled by the Zio Jews, he's saying that Iran should actually have nukes in order to counter the ambitions of the Zio Jews.

The mutually assured destruction principle, which as ugly as it sounds, is real.