Ben Shapiro

Also, the people involved in these chats were convinced that a group of Epstein elites,

manipulated by the Israelis, that somehow this was what was in charge of the American government.

Joining us online is Cabot Phillips.

He, of course, is the host of Wired and Live, which airs Monday through Thursday, 5 p.m.

Eastern on Daily Wire, Spotify and Apple.

Cabot, thanks so much for taking the time.

Really appreciate it.

Absolutely, Ben.

So can you give me some details on this apparent gigantic terror plot, a drone plot against people who are attending the UFC fight on the White House lawn on Sunday that was uncovered by the FBI?

Now, as always, the first place that people go is what are the politics of the people who are attempting to carry out this plot?

Well, what do we know at this point about why they wanted to do this, who they were targeting?

What was the goal?

So unsurprisingly, it turns out the conspiratorial nonsense surrounding Jeffrey Epstein and Israel and the Trump administration may have some pretty dire consequences for people who didn't used to be crazy and then went crazy because there are people who are spoon feeding them this garbage.

So Cabot, what are the charges?

What would the expected sentences be?

And how fast does this thing move toward trial?

Very disturbing stuff.

Cabot Phillips, thanks for your reporting.

Check out the show Wired In Live every day over at Daily Wire, Spotify, and Apple.

Cabot, thanks so much for the time.