Ben Shapiro

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Yeah, Michael, when you look at that 2028 race, you've mentioned Rahm Emanuel, you mentioned Gavin Newsom.

Now, the sort of

major factor that people keep ignoring in the Democratic primaries is, of course, the outsized weight of the of the black vote in places like South Carolina.

It's what is what put Joe Biden over the top against Bernie Sanders.

It is what put Hillary Clinton over the top actually against Bernie Sanders back in back in 2016.

And obviously, it was very, very helpful to Barack Obama.

When you look at some of the candidates you're talking about, like Rahm Emanuel,

uh... or a uh... org or a gavin newsom is that is there anyone else that you're looking at who has the capacity to to capitalize on the at i believe fifty six percent of the voting population in the democratic primaries in south carolina is black and it's majority in a huge percentage of the south as well i get given the heavy sort of majority minority coalition built by democrats in the states what does that mean for a democratic primary where again a lot of their their top candidates are white but you might get a west more a comma harris is probably run again what what what do you make of that

It does raise the question of sort of moderate candidate versus not moderate candidate, which you're bringing up here, which is that actually the South Carolina voters have tended toward the more moderate candidate in a wide variety of presidential primaries for the Democratic Party in the recent past.

But the Democratic Party, as you've also been mentioning, is running headlong off a cliff.

in terms of some of these primary candidates, like a Graham Platner in Maine or like Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan, really embracing some of the more radical aspects of their own party.

How wide is that gap going to open before 2028?

What happens to the party if you have, say, AOC declare for the presidency and also a Pete Buttigieg and also a Gavin Newsom?

It's going to be a very crowded field.

And how do you see that?

This is a little bit of a data question.

Sorry, Michael, quick data thing, actually.

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